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# 41
11-07-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by orelbitin View Post
you might think from the tittle im just another person who pissed at the klingons for killing him so much well its true but the tittle its telling the truth

first off i know klingons are over powered because when i started playing as a Klingon and got to level 30 with only 3 weapons in the front of my bird of prey i could insta kill escorts , i could kill cruisers in a few seconds and by my standards that too much power.trust me i know thats too much because my fed player has a fleet tactical escort retrofit with 4 weapons in the front 5 tact slots and i cant kill any klingon bird of pray with one shoot and trust me iv tried many different weapon combinations .

i rest my case, now its all up to judge Judy.
lol jk
leave your opinion.
Oh boy,one of these threads.....a Fed rolling around on the floor having a temper tantrum like a 3 year old,because he can't kill the big bad Klingon with his overpriced toy.

It will never end,will it....


1. Fed goes up against Klingons and gets his behind handed to him.
2. Fed cries it's unfair that the KDF has 'X'.
3. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'X'.
4. Feds demand 'X'.
5. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'X'.
6. Fed 'X' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
7. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'X'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
8. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'Z' to counter the Feds new 'X'
9. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'Z'.
10. Feds demand 'Z'.
11. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'Z'.
12. Fed 'Z' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
13. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'Z'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
14. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'A' to counter the Feds new 'Z'.

.....rinse and repeat....

Did it ever occur to you that maybe,just maybe it's not the ship but the captain that makes the ship 'OP'?I think the problem is that you mistook the game's imbalance at lower levels as personal skill.
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# 42
11-07-2012, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
Let's not blame the player. The fault is on Cryptic side. PvE is so easy it does not prepare the average player for a typical PvP encounter. But all this really starts at the character creation. A new player does not know, that the default races sucks and lacking 10% of accuracy and 10% defence for example is a HUGE difference in the big picture.

As you level up..

- You do not need to balance your shield
- You do not need to move at high speed to max defence bonus
- You rarely miss because mobs have low defence rating
- You rarely die because NPCs lack the spike
- Yout boff selection does not matter in PvE
- Your doff seletcion does not matter in PvE
- etc.etc.

Hence in majority of cases a fed player that for some reason ventures to a FvK is an easy target. And even if you are good, the bad players in your team will pull you down with them.

I wouldn't say Klingon ships are better, but their natural strenght lies in stats that are valuable in pvp combat, such as turn rate. And they are far from gimped. Galaxy class is gimped.
Did you take some of that Bateret Incense? In PvE it certainly does matter what your boff and doff setup is. Maybe not as much as PvP but you can't be strolling around with some mumbo jumbo setup.

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Originally Posted by carcharodon1975 View Post
Oh boy,one of these threads.....a Fed rolling around on the floor having a temper tantrum like a 3 year old,because he can't kill the big bad Klingon with his overpriced toy.

It will never end,will it....


1. Fed goes up against Klingons and gets his behind handed to him.
2. Fed cries it's unfair that the KDF has 'X'.
3. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'X'.
4. Feds demand 'X'.
5. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'X'.
6. Fed 'X' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
7. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'X'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
8. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'Z' to counter the Feds new 'X'
9. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'Z'.
10. Feds demand 'Z'.
11. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'Z'.
12. Fed 'Z' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
13. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'Z'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
14. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'A' to counter the Feds new 'Z'.

.....rinse and repeat....

Did it ever occur to you that maybe,just maybe it's not the ship but the captain that makes the ship 'OP'?I think the problem is that you mistook the game's imbalance at lower levels as personal skill.
I giggled and QFT!
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Posts: 103
# 43
11-07-2012, 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carcharodon1975 View Post
Oh boy,one of these threads.....a Fed rolling around on the floor having a temper tantrum like a 3 year old,because he can't kill the big bad Klingon with his overpriced toy.

It will never end,will it....


1. Fed goes up against Klingons and gets his behind handed to him.
2. Fed cries it's unfair that the KDF has 'X'.
3. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'X'.
4. Feds demand 'X'.
5. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'X'.
6. Fed 'X' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
7. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'X'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
8. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'Z' to counter the Feds new 'X'
9. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'Z'.
10. Feds demand 'Z'.
11. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'Z'.
12. Fed 'Z' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
13. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'Z'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
14. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'A' to counter the Feds new 'Z'.

.....rinse and repeat....

Did it ever occur to you that maybe,just maybe it's not the ship but the captain that makes the ship 'OP'?I think the problem is that you mistook the game's imbalance at lower levels as personal skill.
ROFL, this is so true !!
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# 44
11-07-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by carcharodon1975 View Post


1. Fed goes up against Klingons and gets his behind handed to him.
2. Fed cries it's unfair that the KDF has 'X'.
3. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'X'.
4. Feds demand 'X'.
5. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'X'.
6. Fed 'X' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
7. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'X'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
8. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'Z' to counter the Feds new 'X'
9. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'Z'.
10. Feds demand 'Z'.
11. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'Z'.
12. Fed 'Z' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
13. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'Z'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
14. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'A' to counter the Feds new 'Z'.

.....rinse and repeat....
Its no coincidence that the feds reactions and the Cryptic marketing strategy are the same......
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# 45
11-07-2012, 10:17 AM
If you don't mind me saying, all, but could this have been a troll post possibly? Just feels like one to me.

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# 46
11-07-2012, 10:24 AM
The OP is actually the prime example of who I'll target if I'm bored enough to PvP on my Klink... people who think they're the Sisko and try to solo everything without their team

When you leave the Fedball, you:

  1. Indirectly buff my stealth (no worries about SS)
  2. Make it harder/impossible for your team to heal or provide support

A Fed team that bands together will wreck most of the KDF's exclusive advantages right off the bat. That's how powerful playing as a team is.

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# 47
11-07-2012, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by shimmerless View Post
The OP is actually the prime example of who I'll target if I'm bored enough to PvP on my Klink... people who think they're the Sisko and try to solo everything without their team

When you leave the Fedball, you:

  1. Indirectly buff my stealth (no worries about SS)
  2. Make it harder/impossible for your team to heal or provide support

A Fed team that bands together will wreck most of the KDF's exclusive advantages right off the bat. That's how powerful playing as a team is.
My main is KDF, 3 of my alts are KDF, I only visit fedside once in a while, and I endorse this ^ message.
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# 48
11-07-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by orelbitin View Post
i know this isent related to the topic bu how do u leave comments under what u type
See that quote button above
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# 49
11-07-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepid74656 View Post
Did you take some of that Bateret Incense? In PvE it certainly does matter what your boff and doff setup is. Maybe not as much as PvP but you can't be strolling around with some mumbo jumbo setup.
No it really really doesn't matter, you can take any combination of Boffs and make it work to get kills in PvE and that has always been the case with this game. Make no mistake that the boff combinations will mostly suck, but you'll still get the kills and get the job done.

That's why PvP players have such low opinions of PvE players, and why older KDF players in particular have low opinions of Fed players, because old school KDF players leveled up through only PvP and the PvE content in the game just seemed pathetic once you get adjusted to PvP gameplay and why KDF players just laugh when threads like this come up.

No the KDF ships are not overpowered, in fact the fed ships are typically more durable when compared on a per class basis.

Like I said, this is not the first of these threads, and it won't be the last until the PvE content that most Feds level up with gets tougher, and no 'Elite' difficulty is not tougher.

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Last edited by therealsivar; 11-07-2012 at 11:49 AM.
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# 50
11-07-2012, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vitzh View Post
For every "Klingon Side are OP" thread that appears on Klingon Gameplay, do you think we should make a thread "Feds are idiots" on Federation Gameplay and list the mistakes and reasons why they are failing?
Actually the OP originally put this in STO discussion section - it was just moved without the move icon by a mod and re-started under Klingon gameplay.
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