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# 71
11-07-2012, 02:22 PM
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BiteMePwe V's Levi3, shouldnt this thread be in the PvP area or was there a klingon topic here somewhere?
It's normally how these types of threads go, people start going after each other for one reason or another and it ends up getting closed.

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# 72
11-07-2012, 02:27 PM
The KFD generally isn't overpowered. The only overpowered ship in this game is the Jem'hadar bug ship. (5 tac consoles, cruiser level shielding, highest escort level hull, two universal Lt. slots, turn rate one less than a BoP...you get the idea). Sure, they can be beat in 1v1, but not if the captain behind the ship is worth his salt.

With that said, there are no overpowered KFD ships in this game. BoP suffer a severe hull weakness. All it takes is one snag in a tractor beam backed with a dual beam bank overload III and that BoP is history. The only OP build on the KFD side is that <insert profane remarks here> KFD energy drain built carrier that drains ALL of your subsystem power and cannot be resisted. The build uses Plasmonic Leech, Aceton Assimilators, Power siphon drones, energy siphon, tykens rift, beam target engines, and viral matrix. After you get hit with that you'd be lucky to make it out alive. With no power your ship is a sitting duck. Sure, half of those abilities will wear off in 30 seconds, but really, how long does it take a Klingon escort to deal 36-50K damage to an immobile unshielded target? This carrier build is what makes the KFD appear to be overpowered. When fighting these carriers in PvP I feel like I am fighting the Breen from Deep Space Nine Season 7 rather than the KFD. The solution is to add a max energy drain cap so that these builds don't cripple entire teams.

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# 73
11-07-2012, 04:20 PM
I have used both the Defiant and the Bop with end game gear. They both have weakness and they both have strengths. The bop can not survive a sustained battle, without getting into a whole heap of trouble. If you do not know what I mean by that, then you shouldn't be saying the klingons are op This is why it has battle cloak. Its strength, like an escort, can do a great deal of damage.The escort can take a pounding more so then a bop, and have sustained firepower. Its only weakness is its not a cruiser.

Klingon ships are built like they are because they are klingon. It would not make much sense to have a galaxy class starship shooting dual cannons. As that ship wouldn't beable to maneuver good enough to use them correctly. If you also look at the hull difference you will see the galaxy class is stronger then its counterpart the Neg'var. The Neg'var however being able to use dual heavy cannons, can move a bit better, and has LESS hull strength.

The Negh'var has a hull strength of 39k, with a bit better turn rate, and can equip dual cannons. Turn rate 9

The Galaxy class starship retrofit has 40k hull strength, with less turn rate, and can separate into two pieces. Turn rate 6

I think you find if you do the research almost all fed and Klingon ships match up like this.

As far as pvp goes I did the pvp on the fed side, and fed lost most of the team due to poor players. What I mean by that is most of the fed players I got stuck with went hot dogging infront of everyone else, and took on the entire Klingon fleets alone. This equal death. Also when ever they did attack they made the mistake of getting as close as possible to the klingon ships. Attacking a klingon ship from above limits his ability to do damage to you, with the small increase in hull strength and durability you can survive the fight longer then he can. He wont beable to bring his main weapons to bare.

Now I have seen this same song so many times in the mmo world. This faction is op, this faction sucks blah blah blah blah blah. Teams loose because they do not work together, or they use poor tactics, and lastly they have a poor strategy. This is the truth about mmorpg pvp.
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# 74
11-07-2012, 05:33 PM
On topic....the BoP is a ship that allows novice players to feel powerful during the early levels of the game,as there are fewer skills for an opponent to use to defend himself against a BoP's attacks.But at higher levels,as more skills become available,the BoP's weakenesses become more apparent.Whatever argument you might have,the BoP as a ship is far more balanced (strenghts vs weaknesses) than the Fed ships that Cryptic keeps pouring into the C-store.At level cap it takes a lot more skill to fly a BoP,it's actually the hardest ship to master.

Now for the forum PvP.....

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No in fact I don't report any KDF players when they attack me - your Sig could be easily constitue trolling or flaming - and you have done it many times before - this new one which is a week old is only the first of a long line of Sigs where you have done that.

Hawk which I posted "quotes" in my "Launched the first I.K.S Levi3" thread openly asked KDF players to target and kill me.

Did not report that - so really what is said does not bother me.

Funny though I have received lots of warnings - and removal of my posts which even slightly are negative against KDF - are you KDFers reporting me? I thought you had stronger constitutions than to sink to that level.
Well levi3....you need to grow a spine. You have been chumming the waters for weeks now....and now that the sharks have arrived and you have their attention,you are playing the victim.

You are like a little kid,pinching the other kids when they are not looking,and then runs to the teacher when he gets chased by the angry mob.
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# 75
11-07-2012, 06:33 PM
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Now for the forum PvP.....



Well levi3....you need to grow a spine. You have been chumming the waters for weeks now....and now that the sharks have arrived and you have their attention,you are playing the victim.

You are like a little kid,pinching the other kids when they are not looking,and then runs to the teacher when he gets chased by the angry mob.
Actually this is something between Roach and me. or bitemepwe if you have not been around here long enough.

Funny thing is as I said - I have always enjoyed the banter between the 2 of us - and that is why several post ago I called truce - cease-fire - I give up - because this one was getting way of topic and pointless - and I really don't care that much - so Next.
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# 76
11-07-2012, 06:45 PM
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Whatever - this is not productive - the fact is when its a "negative" slatted sig - it's almost always been me you target since I have been on the forums - don't deny that - its not like you.

Fact is i have always liked our banter when we had one going - so I am just calling truce on this.
Do not worry about it. My signature will change as soon as another quotable post comes along that catches my fancy or I think of something to say.

I have long used my signature as a billboard of sorts for STO minutia.
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# 77
11-07-2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by levi3 View Post
Actually this is something between Roach and me. or bitemepwe if you have not been around here long enough.

Funny thing is as I said - I have always enjoyed the banter between the 2 of us - and that is why several post ago I called truce - cease-fire - I give up - because this one was getting way of topic and pointless - and I really don't care that much - so Next.
My comments had nothing to do with Roach,they were aimed at how you conduct yourself on these forums.This post of yours is nothing more than an attempt to deflect unwanted attention away from the real issue.....your contant manipulation,playing two sides to cause strife and discontent between people for your own enjoyment.And when you get caught red handed you play murdered innocence.
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# 78
11-07-2012, 07:39 PM
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Do not worry about it. My signature will change as soon as another quotable post comes along that catches my fancy or I think of something to say.

I have long used my signature as a billboard of sorts for STO minutia.
Fair enough - I still do enjoy our banter - that was not something said just to make you change your sig
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# 79
11-07-2012, 09:05 PM
So.. um... that KDF hey...


Not over powered, just awesome with cool toys
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# 80
11-07-2012, 09:45 PM
I'm a fed I fly sci/sci I kill bops like they are butter I even destroy rapters in no time. It not that klings are over powered its that you fighting good klings as a fed and fighting bad Feds as a kling lol
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