Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 111
11-07-2012, 12:45 PM
well, here's a data point for you guys to use as a reference point.

Drexela: (has done a few STFs, but did not have any EDCs or tech laying around)
no crate...

anyways... My hypothesis about why they do the teirs has less to do with wanting to rip people off and more to do with the mechanics of how the crates work. Basically, I think there are several sizes of crates and some sort of algorithm decides which size you get.
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 112
11-07-2012, 12:52 PM
Last STF pushed me over the edge:

53EDCs, 5 Rare Borg Salvage, 47 Prototype Borg Salvage,
1 Prototype Shield Tech, 1 Prototype Engine Tech, 1 Prototype Deflector Tech,
1 Prototype Weapon Tech, 1 Prototype Armour Tech

turned into

2500 OM, 11 BNP, 3000 Dil

(Before that I had 5 EDC less and no Prototype Armour Tech, and it got me the 2000/9/2000 box.)

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Ensign
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2
# 113
11-07-2012, 01:10 PM
~330 marks
9 proto tech
~50 proto salvage
16 rare tech
~50 rare salvage

and i got ... *drums* ...

3500 marks
15 neural processors
8000 ore (<- wtf cryptic are you serious?)
Career Officer
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Posts: 163
# 114
11-07-2012, 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hramone View Post
~330 marks
9 proto tech
~50 proto salvage
16 rare tech
~50 rare salvage

and i got ... *drums* ...

3500 marks
15 neural processors
8000 ore (<- wtf cryptic are you serious?)
See your close to what I had in edc, and got a 3rd of the dilithium, same NP, and 1k less omega.

oh and I am re-transfering my toon to see if there is any change on a second round.
Career Officer
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Posts: 527
# 115
11-07-2012, 01:25 PM
I don't understand what the hate is for the small amounts of dilithum.

from the looks of it, reputation projects don't require dilithum anymore, and your going to get a lot through all the other events for your fleets and your own use.

maybe i'm missing something here, just don't understand the hate.

i didn't have much so i'm only looking at 1000 omega marks and 5 processors and no ore. i wasn't going to turn my stuff into dil since i figured the marks and processors will help me more (i don't really like elite much to be honest).
Career Officer
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# 116
11-07-2012, 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by neok182 View Post
I don't understand what the hate is for the small amounts of dilithum.

from the looks of it, reputation projects don't require dilithum anymore, and your going to get a lot through all the other events for your fleets and your own use.

maybe i'm missing something here, just don't understand the hate.

i didn't have much so i'm only looking at 1000 omega marks and 5 processors and no ore. i wasn't going to turn my stuff into dil since i figured the marks and processors will help me more (i don't really like elite much to be honest).
You're still going to have to pay dilithium for gear if you want it.

And whilst yes, many players will have the Mk XII space and ground sets, most likely they'll want the 'Adapted' sets. And the new Borg sets (Mk XII) and quite possibly the Romulan stuff - this will all cost Dilithium - hundreds of thousands of Dilithium.
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Career Officer
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Posts: 883
# 117
11-07-2012, 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
You're still going to have to pay dilithium for gear if you want it.

And whilst yes, many players will have the Mk XII space and ground sets, most likely they'll want the 'Adapted' sets. And the new Borg sets (Mk XII) and quite possibly the Romulan stuff - this will all cost Dilithium - hundreds of thousands of Dilithium.
This ^^^

You also need Borg Neural Processors at 10 per Mk12 item. Currently someone with 100's of edc's and 10's of prototech are getting 15 or so.

In what sense is that even remotely fair?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 133
# 118
11-07-2012, 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by neok182 View Post
I don't understand what the hate is for the small amounts of dilithum.

from the looks of it, reputation projects don't require dilithum anymore, and your going to get a lot through all the other events for your fleets and your own use.

maybe i'm missing something here, just don't understand the hate.

i didn't have much so i'm only looking at 1000 omega marks and 5 processors and no ore. i wasn't going to turn my stuff into dil since i figured the marks and processors will help me more (i don't really like elite much to be honest).
Fleet Base projects still require (copius amounts of) dilithium.
Omega/Romulan stores still require dilithium.
Dilithium store requires dilithium.

When you can cash out 100 proto salvage for 230k dilithium today versus 8k on patch day, I'd say that's a fairly sizable reduction. If we were getting, say, a third of that amount in dilithium and some additional OM/BNPs, that'd be another ballgame. But right now as it stands, it seems like we're getting the pretty short end of a very long and girthy stick.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 163
# 119
11-07-2012, 01:44 PM
plus in playing on tribble, the omega marks seem easy to come by if your gettting like 60 for one STF elite. 15 of the NP is only 15 runs of STF elite. The loot I have now is hundreds of runs being turned into 15.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 120
11-07-2012, 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by obertheromulan View Post
Last STF pushed me over the edge:

53EDCs, 5 Rare Borg Salvage, 47 Prototype Borg Salvage,
1 Prototype Shield Tech, 1 Prototype Engine Tech, 1 Prototype Deflector Tech,
1 Prototype Weapon Tech, 1 Prototype Armour Tech

turned into

2500 OM, 11 BNP, 3000 Dil

(Before that I had 5 EDC less and no Prototype Armour Tech, and it got me the 2000/9/2000 box.)
I just turned in the Armour Tech.
Still getting 2500OM 11BNP 3000 Dil.

Edit: That makes that
53EDCs, 5 Rare Borg Salvage, 47 Prototype Borg Salvage,
1 Prototype Shield Tech, 1 Prototype Engine Tech, 1 Prototype Deflector Tech,
1 Prototype Weapon Tech
=
2500 OM, 11 BNP, 3000 Dil

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