Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 132
# 51
11-07-2012, 12:20 AM
Character 1

711 EDC
158 Rare Salvage
86 Prototype Salvage
31 Rare Tech
11 Prototype Tech

5000 Marks
15 Neural Processors
32,000 Dilithium Ore

Converted all to Dilithium now 498,153
Converted EDC and Salvage to Dilithium now 440,073

Character 2

48 EDC
39 Rare Salvage
32 Prototype Salvage
7 Rare Tech
12 Prototype Tech

3000 Marks
13 Neural Processors
4,000 Dilithium Ore

Converted all to Dilithium now 17,1148

The Omega Conversion crates rate is daylight robbery. It is the Marks to Dilithium rate all over again, I thought they said they would learn from their mistakes! They haven?t even got the guts to tell us the rate. You don?t even get any Omega Marks before Tier 3, so you have to grind STF's to unlock the box, really nice another slap in the face.

For a start we are being seriously short change, but I think it?s Cryptic plan to keep players grinding in the game and take away stuff they have already earned. Who wants to bet in another 12 months time they will change it again, saying something like we want to simplify the system.

Looks like I'm better off converting most of my EDC and Salvage to Dilithium now.

At least there?s that other game going F2P real soon, I might as well check it out now, I did buy the Collectors edition of the game.

-------------------------------- New Maths ------------------------------

Did a quick maths with just EDC and Salvage converted into Dilithium.

From Character 1

EDC to Dilithium 75,801
From crate 32,000

So I'm only getting 43% from what I could get now

Form Character 2

EDC to Dilithium 4,224
From crate 4,000

So I'm getting 95% from what I could get now.

This is the kick in the nuts.

From Character 1
EDC and Salvage to Dilithium 440,073
From crate 32,000

So I'm only getting just over 7% (7.28%) from what I could get now!!!??!

So using Character 2

I converted 40 EDC to Dilithium, which I got 4,224 and bin the 8 EDC

New test.

Character 2 New

0 EDC
39 Rare Salvage
32 Prototype Salvage
7 Rare Tech
12 Prototype Tech

2500 Marks
11 Neural Processors
3,000 Dilithium Ore

So I lost 500 Marks and 2 Neural Processors but gained 3,224 Dilithium.

Last edited by captainjgee; 11-07-2012 at 02:10 AM. Reason: New Maths
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,173
# 52
11-07-2012, 12:28 AM
Posted in other thread so plz forgive the dupe if they get merged....

13 Proto Shields
1 Proto Deflector
9 Rare Shields
2 Rare Engines
1 Rare Deflector
1 Rare Armor Tech
179 EDC
36 Proto Salvaage
35 Rare Salvage

All of this equals 3500 Marks, 15 Neaural Processors and 8000 Dilithium.

Now I know why they waited so long to release these numbers.

This is utterly unacceptable bull****. Yes, I cursed. Total crap.

You nerf our sets, we complain, you say nothing.

You cut out income from STFs, we complain, you say nothing.

You cut random loot from STFs, we complain, you say nothing.

You then give us some nice "Greek tender loving" without a certain petroleum jelly and tell us it's for our own good. But you don't even kiss us; you make us wait to T-5?

That's it. Done.

Later.

Doc, you can have my **** and distribute it to the fleet. lol


EDIT: THere seems to be a "HARD CAP" going on here. Can someone plz run the numbers? I am too buzzed and too angry to do so. (hence my name)
Career Officer
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 48
# 53
11-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by badname834854 View Post
Posted in other thread so plz forgive the dupe if they get merged....

13 Proto Shields
1 Proto Deflector
9 Rare Shields
2 Rare Engines
1 Rare Deflector
1 Rare Armor Tech
179 EDC
36 Proto Salvaage
35 Rare Salvage

All of this equals 3500 Marks, 15 Neaural Processors and 8000 Dilithium.

Now I know why they waited so long to release these numbers.

This is utterly unacceptable bull****. Yes, I cursed. Total crap.

You nerf our sets, we complain, you say nothing.

You cut out income from STFs, we complain, you say nothing.

You cut random loot from STFs, we complain, you say nothing.

You then give us some nice "Greek tender loving" without a certain petroleum jelly and tell us it's for our own good. But you don't even kiss us; you make us wait to T-5?

That's it. Done.

Later.

Doc, you can have my **** and distribute it to the fleet. lol


EDIT: THere seems to be a "HARD CAP" going on here. Can someone plz run the numbers? I am too buzzed and too angry to do so. (hence my name)

Don't leave me ABM
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 54
11-07-2012, 01:43 AM
I have

14 EDC, 46 Prototype Borg Salvage, 2 Rare Borg Salvage
1 Prototype Shield Tech, 1 Prototype Deflector Tech, 1 Prototype Engine Tech
1 Prototype Weapon Tech

turned into

2000 Marks 9 BNP 2000 Dil

With 8 less EDC, 1 less ProtoSalvage, and without the Prototype Engine Tech and Rare salvages, I still had the same.

I was expecting to get ripped off. Doesn't surprise me. However I would like to know exactly how much is required to reach each tier. That's the very least they should give us.

Vornek@oberlerchner123 - Join Date: July 2008

Last edited by obertheromulan; 11-07-2012 at 02:23 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 891
# 55
11-07-2012, 02:21 AM
This is your idea of a "generous" conversion Cryptic? Seriously? Your robbing people out of hundreds of thousands of dilithium for a handful of marks that won't take more than a couple days to earn.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,192
# 56
11-07-2012, 02:35 AM
I think it would be wise to give anyone who got STF tokens converted a veteran boff token as appretiation for their effort before this change.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 57
11-07-2012, 02:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
I think it would be wise to give anyone who got STF tokens converted a veteran boff token as appretiation for their effort before this change.
Actually the only reason I havn't just gone out and converted everything to Dil and EC already.

Vornek@oberlerchner123 - Join Date: July 2008
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,028
# 58
11-07-2012, 02:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by obertheromulan View Post
However I would like to know exactly how much is required to reach each tier. That's the very least they should give us.
Aye, all it would take is a Dev Blog with a little chart. I sincerely doubt it's going to happen
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Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 86
# 59
11-07-2012, 03:03 AM
The XP Projects so far dont use much marks ,1 Elite stf Covers both XP projects.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,512
# 60
11-07-2012, 03:30 AM
The exchange rate is laughable...

Quick! Everyone to DS9 and trade your stuff for dilithium while there's still time!
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