Never said that either. Just was saying that this guy would be arrogant and would go in with a cocky smirk and come out wondering wtf just killed him. The Vesta is a very powerful ship. There is no getting around that. The Wells is also quite powerful. I just don't like seeing ships summarily dismissed because you don't like them. And this guy dismissed the Vesta, and as a result will no doubt not only underestimate said ship, but will not take care when engaging it, and get mauled. Hence why I will find it rather amusing when it happens. Not IF mind you, but WHEN.

Agreed - never wise to underestimate ANY ship. Heck, my (fleet) Rhode Island (one of the most unassuming ships in the game in my opinion), when set-up right, can produce a few nasty suprises!

Except that it probably turns about as quickly as the Kremlin!

That's exactly right but also..

I can't agree with all these "Vesta or Oddy" posts simply becuase you can't fly these ships the same way.

The Oddy is a really good cruiser, whereas the Vesta will be simply a really good sci ship.

Add DHCs, gimmick consoles, and swap console slots around, the Vesta is still just that, a science ship, with a plastic hull, and good shield mod.

Same with the Oddy, theres an eng, sci, and tac version with console slots catered a little bit more to each chosen profession, but at the end of the day, all 3 are still cruisers, with standard a buffed hull, and standard shield mods.

While I can appreciate folks wanting a new shinyshiny, the Vesta is simply not going to out-DPS a Fleet Defiant or even a Fleet Patrol Escort (assuming they and/or the Vesta are flown correctly), nor is it going to be able to tank it's hull as efficiently as basically any T5 or T5+ cruiser. I think it's a cool ship definitely, but I don't think it's really fair to be compared to anything we already have except maybe the closest being the Wells.

I think at the end of the day, the Vesta (and/or it's variants) will perform best with a tactically-oriented sci captain (the same bunch that can and know how to effectively utilize the MVAMs sci slot or a Wells class)