Originally Posted by crypticarmsman

Given what we're actually discussing, I find the irony of your statement amusing. As for watching the entiorety of Star Trek, I HAVE - and from the third season of TOS through TAS (which you may or may not have heard of) - the TOS feature films, TNG, DS9, VOY (well I'll admit I gave up on VOY after its first season, talk about bad writing, and writing a Captain character as if she's Bi-Polar ); and ENT - it was watched all first run/when released.

She sported a Skant for the TNG pilot - then a catsuit, and sometimes a sheer turquoise dress until the 6th season when Captain Edward Jellico suggested rather strongly that she adopt a standard starfleet uniform. As for never 'butchering a Starfleet uniform, remember 'in universe' those particular uniforms are some 35 years in the past, so you may yourself want to "join us in the 'present day' as it were with regard to Star Trek (as even CBS somewhat acknowledges that STO is the actual continuation of the 'Prime' ST Universe'.


FYI - I never claimed it's 'more Star Trek' - I was refuting someone's statement that is 'wasn't Star Trek' - and sorry; TOS WAS Star Trek, without which you would never have had TNG, DS9, et. al. - that's all I was ever saying.

That saud, in the end, remember, Star Trek is NOT a guiding philosophy for anything (never was). It was/is entertainment that occassionally did some social commentary disguised in a science fiction setting - but in the end, it was in fact designed te entertain (and make GR and Co. a lot of money.) - Just saying.

Originally Posted by tachyonharmonic

It was my polite way of pointing out that you're stuck in the same sexist mindset of pointing out TOS as the guideline for what is Star Trek w/ regards to uniforms. This ain't the 60s anymore, man. Having the majority of females be half-naked was how things were at the time. We're in the 21st century now, though. That just ain't the way it is anymore, and we've got 50 more years worth of Star Trek to prove it.

As you point out yourself, Troi's outfits were largely not official Starfleet. She certainly wasn't wearing anything as blatantly slutty as this. If you're going to try to tell me that this slut outfit is the new official Starfleet uniform, you need to lay off the Ferasan Chag grass. That would be absolutely ridiculous. The only reason they even put in the "canon" bit about crews choosing their own uniforms was so we could get away with wearing a TOS Uniform or a TNG or Voyager, that's how they sell more uniforms.

TOS was Star Trek, but now it's also TNG, DS9, VOY, the movies, etc. Where women aren't treated as just pieces of meat and objectified, as you'd suggest. Women are flesh and blood characters just as much as any of the male characters. If you think slutty-dressed women represents Star Trek, you're stuck in a long-dead age.

You're the most naive person on this universe if you can't see that it's a blatant attempt to sell the game via sex. I don't know who you're trying to convince it's anything more than that.

Originally Posted by tachyonharmonic

We're in the 21st century now, though. That just ain't the way it is anymore,

Originally Posted by tachyonharmonic

It was my polite way of pointing out that you're stuck in the same sexist mindset of pointing out TOS as the guideline for what is Star Trek w/ regards to uniforms. This ain't the 60s anymore, man. Having the majority of females be half-naked was how things were at the time. We're in the 21st century now, though. That just ain't the way it is anymore, and we've got 50 more years worth of Star Trek to prove it.

Originally Posted by d3cubed

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone else sees this for what it is: an attempt by cryptic to use sex to bring male players (pun intended) into their bed.

I was happy with most of season seven, why did you have to screw it up with this?

Originally Posted by sollvax

Clearly not

the Queen is 100% machine in a skin suit

Originally Posted by sollvax

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that and actors breathe

Originally Posted by sollvax

im pretty sure he doesn't bleed

Originally Posted by sollvax

not exactly ours is a multi directional compound system
theirs is more like a pond filter

Originally Posted by sollvax

A "dead" borg sits up in voyager (purely the implants)

Originally Posted by sollvax

not exactly they remove healthy tissue to render the drone less efficient and unable to function if it rebels

Originally Posted by sollvax

Actually Viruses aren't exactly alive
they replicate using a living cell but are not themselves anything more than a complicated Weapon

Originally Posted by sollvax

Alternate name suggestions seem to abound

lets not forget

T'pheavy
T'pless
and Slutik