Originally Posted by kirksplat

I have to agree with this. They don't need to give a new exploit or freebie to replace something that wasn't meant to provide a freebie through an exploit.

The only argument that could be made: "Somehow Cryptic designed this wrapper for the creation of freebies, so taking it away means we need a different freebie." I don't really think that flies very well.

I think the bottom line is this: You get STF rewards for playing an actual STF. You should get the Foundry rewards for playing actual Foundry missions. There is no console clicker equivalent to get STF gear. There shouldn't be. That would be an exploit to getting STF gear.

Now, if some of you guys think that dil is too hard to come by, well, that is an entirely different issue. Closing an exploit = closing an exploit. Making dilithium more plentiful should be a different debate.

If you want more dilithium for your work, then ask that the dilithium reward for playing actual Foundry mission be upped to 5000 or something. That would be cool and reasonable, since you're doing something to earn it.

If you just want something for logging in, spend 5 minutes a day messing with doffs.

Originally Posted by genhauk

Then the other answer is to REDUCE the amount of dilithium required for fleet projects ... more so in the higher tiers.

Current formulas EXPLOIT smaller (actually all) fleets.

Those missions were just a way for us to patch THEIR exploit of us.

Originally Posted by odyssey47

No the answer to your problem is to go out and recruit and make your fleet bigger. If they lower the needs of fleet project then there won't be enough to go around for the fleets that are actually the size of, you know, a fleet. My fleet is by no means huge, but we get by just fine. In fact, we get by just fine running a Fed and Klingon fleet with the same people. The answer to a challenge isn't to have it spoon fed to you like a child, get off your rear and improve your fleet.

Originally Posted by genhauk

Not all fleets are large.

Not all fleets have power players with lots of time.

Very happy with my family and friends that are in my fleet and WE are a good fleet AND a founding member of the United Fleet Coalition .. a coalition of smaller fleets.

Toss in that I'm with the Gates of Sto'Vo'Kor podcast.

This is not just the fleet I'm with but several others as well.

I'm going to refrain from saying more on this response as I have no desire to be banned.

Originally Posted by odyssey47

But you and so many other fleets think that the game should be catered to your choice to have a small fleet. No one is forcing you to have a small fleet that can't get anything accomplished. That's your choice. If things were made easy for small fleets, then the larger fleets will be rather bored. Would be better to keep everyone challenged than to reduce this game to Kindergarten.

Originally Posted by genhauk

We've been doing just fun and I'm not gonna sit around and let the smaller fleets not have a voice.

The majority of players choose smaller fleets so that means that we should have a voice.

If you choose to play in a larger one, that's YOUR choice.

But they have to look to the larger player base.

Are you in fleet administration for your fleet? ... Do you grind grind grind grind to get it done?

My people do and I'm VERY proud of them. And BECAUSE I'm proud of them ... I'm NOT going to stand up for them and make sure THEIR voices are heard as well as those in fleets like ours.

We choose NOT to merge because we like our families .... our friends.

I know every single person in the fleet I'm in. I'd drop everything for every single one of them.

Can larger fleets say that?

Originally Posted by odyssey47

but I was wrong. Besides, they are lowering the dilithium costs. I think they've done their part to responding to the small fleets complaints. Don't push it further.