Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,351
# 711
01-29-2013, 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
What's wrong with sitting still? I'd rather be jamming the innate/boff/console activation buttons than lazily holding down the W/A/S/D keys and hoping the enemy fires on the shield facing I want them to.

Not gonna happen. Although some crafty piloting is needed, it shouldn't be the primary concern when flying a cruiser. Your primary concerns should be healing teammates, and reallocating the shields to the correct facing (Tactical Team helps with this).
There's a phrase that comes to mind when I read this post, "sitting duck".

BTW, you can still hold down the "W/A/S/D" buttons and still use console abilities and the like.
Super Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,656
# 712
01-29-2013, 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by momaw View Post
I'd just like to point out that the slower the turn rate, the greater the radius you must maintain in order to broadside a target, which directly translates into less damage dealt.
Good point.

I usually need to slow down in a cruiser so I can make tighter turns and have more time on target. Stopping is probably a bad idea, but so is running full speed.
Volunteer Community Moderator for the Star Trek Online forums -- My views may not represent those of Cryptic Studios or Perfect World Entertainment. If you wish to speak to someone on the community team, file a "forums and website" support ticket here, as we are not able to respond to PMs regarding moderation inquiries.
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,351
# 713
01-29-2013, 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
Good point.

I usually need to slow down in a cruiser so I can make tighter turns and have more time on target. Stopping is probably a bad idea, but so is running full speed.
That's why I tend to throw my ships in reverse from time to time, it can change the degree of turn needed to stay in arc, especially the front mounted weapons.

With the world of escort dominated PvP, you almost need to be able to run at full speed for a certain amount of time otherwise when you slow down its all to predictable. I'd love to be able to bring my Excel' back to an overall turn rate of more than 20 degrees per second at 100% throttle.

Last edited by whamhammer1; 01-29-2013 at 01:18 PM.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,750
# 714
01-29-2013, 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by momaw View Post

My fleet corsair (base turn 8) runs beams, but thanks to the plasmonic leech I'm also running somewhere around 60 power to engines with only 25 invested, so it moves fast and turns easily. Good luck with that on Fed side.
Unfortunately, our Cryptic overlords refuse to give us feddies the lolnergy console, so we do our turning the hard way, RCS consoles.

As far having a wide turning radius goes, I don't feel it. But then I do run an Aux2B build, 2 RCS consoles, and lots of APO, so my turning is definitely not indicative of most pilot's personal experience

Last edited by skyranger1414; 01-29-2013 at 03:52 PM.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,471
# 715
01-29-2013, 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whamhammer1
There's a phrase that comes to mind when I read this post, "sitting duck".

BTW, you can still hold down the "W/A/S/D" buttons and still use console abilities and the like.
I didn't say stopping the engines 100% of the time. I stop the ship when I need to focus on other aspects of the PVP match.

Also, in support of the later comments, reversing the engines is a tactic I use as well. Many an escort pilot are befuddled by the sudden "disappearance" of my cruiser.

My point was, flying the ship shouldn't be the main concern, it should be managing your own shield/hull and your teammates shields/hull. If you have such a focus on steering, there's a couple other games that focus just on piloting skill which might appeal to you.

And no, I can't hold down the WASD keys and use console/boff/tray abilities. My keyboard only allows three to be held down. So if I'm heading, for example, 045 mark 45 (right and up), that only leaves me one button. In most cases, I need more (such as Alt+# for tray abilities).

stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
My Useful List of STO Forum Threads, Ship Builds & More!
It's about time. DEVS NEED ACCOUNTABILITY.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,351
# 716
02-03-2013, 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
I didn't say stopping the engines 100% of the time. I stop the ship when I need to focus on other aspects of the PVP match.

Also, in support of the later comments, reversing the engines is a tactic I use as well. Many an escort pilot are befuddled by the sudden "disappearance" of my cruiser.

My point was, flying the ship shouldn't be the main concern, it should be managing your own shield/hull and your teammates shields/hull. If you have such a focus on steering, there's a couple other games that focus just on piloting skill which might appeal to you.

And no, I can't hold down the WASD keys and use console/boff/tray abilities. My keyboard only allows three to be held down. So if I'm heading, for example, 045 mark 45 (right and up), that only leaves me one button. In most cases, I need more (such as Alt+# for tray abilities).
Have you tried using the mouse for console/boff/tray abilities while steering? Thats what I tend to do.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 715
# 717
02-03-2013, 06:45 PM
Auxiliary To Inertial Dampeners

+Speed
+Turn Rate
+Kinetic Resist
+Crew Resist
+Crew Alive
Immunity to Disable.

On top of this you gain resistance to holds such as Tractor Beams.

Pop Emergency Power to Auxiliary beforehand, and you won't have to worry about turning.

Odyssey with 3-console, turning at 9.7 degree/sec. X2Damp at 58 Aux power jumped it to 12 degree/sec.

At 91 Aux, it jumped to 15.4.

Without the Chevron it should be at 23.4. That is extremely acceptable for a Cruiser.

I have space for at least 1 X2Damp on all of my Cruisers, and I tank exceedingly well, barring dying from lag or lucky torp crits, as is known to happen at times.
Constant exposure to the same opinions leads to continual reinforcement of ideas until eventually, any challenge, no matter what form it takes, is going to be met with a disproportionate sense of outrage. Room for reasoned discussion can no longer occur.

Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,471
# 718
02-03-2013, 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whamhammer1 View Post
Have you tried using the mouse for console/boff/tray abilities while steering? Thats what I tend to do.
I do that, when there's not enough room in the 10-button row for my 11th ability, and so on. However, my mouse-hand isn't that fast.

stardestroyer001, Admiral, Explorers Fury PvE/PvP Fleet | Retired PvP Player
My Useful List of STO Forum Threads, Ship Builds & More!
It's about time. DEVS NEED ACCOUNTABILITY.
Captain
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,542
# 719
02-03-2013, 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
I do that, when there's not enough room in the 10-button row for my 11th ability, and so on. However, my mouse-hand isn't that fast.
Use the keypad.

Strangely it seem the new arrival (Ambassador) has made this topic largely obsolete.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 440
# 720
02-03-2013, 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
I do that, when there's not enough room in the 10-button row for my 11th ability, and so on. However, my mouse-hand isn't that fast.
Tell me about it, 10 slots per row, 3 visible rows, and i game with a 17 button mouse (12 of which are on the thumb) so I have 2 that I don't use..would be nice to have an extra 2 slots per row..
Click to visit Subspace-Radio
Twitter | Blog | Original Join Date: Dec 2007 | Gaming Setup | Raptr Profile | Gamer DNA
The opinions expressed in my posts are my own views and do not reflect on any other entity(s) or person(s) I may or may not represent at the time.
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:27 AM.