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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 101
# 11
11-13-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by captainrevo1 View Post
I just realised what they have done.

They have not made dilithium that much harder to come by, they have just changed it around. so as you say you can grind out fleet actions instead of grinding stf's, but you cant just do one type of content any more.

so before, people could do stf's and events. they would get dilithium, fleet marks and different endgame gear by just doing the 5 man content over and over.

now they have set it up so players have 4 main objectives. dilithium, omega marks, romulan marks, and fleet marks. the thing is almost none of it overlaps. so if you want romulan marks you do the romulan events or new romulus, then you go do some stf's or defera to get omega, then you go do some fleet events for your starbase, then you go do some fleet actions, exploration, foundry dailiy etc to get your dilithium.

4 types of content to get 4 types of rewards, means people are in game longer.

they are not restricting dilithium, but if you want dilithium and all the other stuff you are going to have to be in game much more often and do a much wider variety of content.
Yup nicely put and a good analysis. It did seem strange that they were removing easy dilithium (console clicks) but effectively turning on the tap with this mission.

Also agree with Adrianm63, it's not exactly rocket science, not much thinking involved and no concequencies of popping.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 555
# 12
11-13-2012, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by captainrevo1 View Post
I just realised what they have done.

They have not made dilithium that much harder to come by, they have just changed it around. so as you say you can grind out fleet actions instead of grinding stf's, but you cant just do one type of content any more.

so before, people could do stf's and events. they would get dilithium, fleet marks and different endgame gear by just doing the 5 man content over and over.

now they have set it up so players have 4 main objectives. dilithium, omega marks, romulan marks, and fleet marks. the thing is almost none of it overlaps. so if you want romulan marks you do the romulan events or new romulus, then you go do some stf's or defera to get omega, then you go do some fleet events for your starbase, then you go do some fleet actions, exploration, foundry dailiy etc to get your dilithium.

4 types of content to get 4 types of rewards, means people are in game longer.

they are not restricting dilithium, but if you want dilithium and all the other stuff you are going to have to be in game much more often and do a much wider variety of content.


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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
I started to piece this together over the last week.

And, yeah, I don't know why they don't just tell us this sort of thing.
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Originally Posted by tobar26th View Post
I do tend to agree. That said maybe they could have just...y'know? Said
Eh cause haters gonna hate... I bet they just gave up on trying to fight the wrath of the forum and probably only care about insightful posts. I sort of figured it out too and was getting so annoyed with all the short sighted doom and gloom threads. They are getting rid of all the hacky ways to get DL and really making it about rewards for specific content. I bet when they looked at their numbers for pre season 7, no one did fleet actions compared to the other content. Pretty good idea as far as I am concerned.

Also I have no idea why so many are Dilithium hungry. I run fleet gear and stf sets and my DL expenditures are minimal and not really recurring... I don't give much DL to the starbase, only when above 300k. Also, It just doesn't pay to spend DL on Zen. As I said in another thread, if you work one hour cleaning toilets for minimum wage of $7.25, say you get $6 or even $5 after taxes... That's 500 to 600 zen for one hour's worth of work. It's impossible to make that much dilithium in one hour (158/1z * 500 = 79000) let alone days and days in STO. While I know some are not as lucky as others when it comes to working and getting paid... it just doesn't make sense to spend time in game for zen.
1hr of work @NYS Min Wage 7.25 = 725 Zen
725 x 102 (or current exchange rate) DL = 73950 DL <- can you earn that per hour in game?

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Last edited by phantomeight; 11-13-2012 at 05:23 PM.
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# 13
11-13-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomeight View Post
Eh cause haters gonna hate... I bet they just gave up on trying to fight the wrath of the forum and probably only care about insightful posts. I sort of figured it out too and was getting so annoyed with all the short sighted doom and gloom threads. They are getting rid of all the hacky ways to get DL and really making it about rewards for specific content. I bet when they looked at their numbers for pre season 7, no one did fleet actions compared to the other content. Pretty good idea as far as I am concerned.

Also I have no idea why so many are Dilithium hungry. I run fleet gear and stf sets and my DL expenditures are minimal and not really recurring... I don't give much DL to the starbase, only when above 300k. Also, It just doesn't pay to spend DL on Zen. As I said in another thread, if you work one hour cleaning toilets for minimum wage of $7.25, say you get $6 or even $5 after taxes... That's 500 to 600 zen for one hour's worth of work. It's impossible to make that much dilithium in one hour (158/1z * 500 = 79000) let alone days and days in STO. While I know some are not as lucky as others when it comes to working and getting paid... it just doesn't make sense to spend time in game for zen.
Haters are gonna hate.

But in general, I only hate when I don't get an explanation.
Commander
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# 14
11-13-2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
And, yeah, I don't know why they don't just tell us this sort of thing.
Because they're being cryptic about it.
Career Officer
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# 15
11-13-2012, 05:57 PM
I want to tank Cryptic for breathing new live into FA, but please now address some of the issues with them and reactivate some that were removed in the past.
Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor

LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 16
11-13-2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
Haters are gonna hate.

But in general, I only hate when I don't get an explanation.
Please be my hero and start sinking some of those Gorn teeth into your posts

From other things I have read from you in the last few weeks - you sound kind of shell shocked.

Last edited by born2bwild1; 11-13-2012 at 05:59 PM.
Commander
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Posts: 433
# 17
11-13-2012, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomeight View Post
Eh cause haters gonna hate... I bet they just gave up on trying to fight the wrath of the forum and probably only care about insightful posts. I sort of figured it out too and was getting so annoyed with all the short sighted doom and gloom threads. They are getting rid of all the hacky ways to get DL and really making it about rewards for specific content. I bet when they looked at their numbers for pre season 7, no one did fleet actions compared to the other content. Pretty good idea as far as I am concerned.

Also I have no idea why so many are Dilithium hungry. I run fleet gear and stf sets and my DL expenditures are minimal and not really recurring... I don't give much DL to the starbase, only when above 300k. Also, It just doesn't pay to spend DL on Zen. As I said in another thread, if you work one hour cleaning toilets for minimum wage of $7.25, say you get $6 or even $5 after taxes... That's 500 to 600 zen for one hour's worth of work. It's impossible to make that much dilithium in one hour (158/1z * 500 = 79000) let alone days and days in STO. While I know some are not as lucky as others when it comes to working and getting paid... it just doesn't make sense to spend time in game for zen.

I do think the Devs have given up a bit on the forums. Usually things get quiet when a new season starts up but every time one shows up it doesn't matter what they post they'll get backlash.

So I figure they have an idea of how things should work and the user base will eventually figure it out too.
Captain
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# 18
11-13-2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yakumosmith View Post
As much as I want to rage about the STF's, can't say i'm complaining about Starbase 24.


I'll do it for you then:

Starbase 24 is stupid.

Like several other missions that I stopped playing because they were stupid, this is a mission built upon the basic premise of a handful of allied ships taking on roughly every single enemy fleet in the history of the universe. The "strategy", if you want to call it that, is for everybody to sit on the edge of an enormous cloud of hostility and spam Fire At Will, Scatter Volley, and Torp Spread. There's no support. There's no maneuvers. There's no tactics. It's just raw firepower sprayed as fast as possible to create a wall of death as the enemy swarm slowly annihilates itself. It's the space equivalent of Serious Sam.

As time goes on, I can't help noticing that more and more content is about this kind of fake difficulty involving implausibly massive and utterly ludicrous engagements. And when you do get a nice small engagement, you're fighting a boss that uses the most incredibly cheap one-shot kills and un-counterable attacks in order to be "challenging".

*sigh*
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 19
11-13-2012, 06:54 PM
oh so THAT is what they are doing....?


so in 2 Months when i'm done with the STF Reputation System i will stop playing STFs.

Endgame with an END to it?

Yeah that makes perfect sense... NOT!

Same with Rom Rep... once done i see no reason to ever return to Tau Dewa (unless i can turn obsolete Rom Marks into Dilithium somehow, at Tier 5?).

And i already stopped playing Fleet Mark stuff because my Fleet is crazy and doesn't even let me contribute the Stuff that i have.
And i got all the Fleet Items i wanted anyway so what would i need more Fleetcredits for?


And before i go back to playing Fleetactions i will play PvP Arenas all day long!

Because FLEETACTIONS SUCK!

- OLD Content is OLD
- Visuals are horrible, framerate issues, bloom overkill, waiting minutes for certain NPCs to spawn....

horrible, just horrible.

Last edited by zerobang; 11-13-2012 at 06:57 PM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 131
# 20
11-13-2012, 07:21 PM
I am enjoying the starbase 24 again, now that it has the dilithium reward. So does the Gorn minefield. Instead of grinding stfs, ill be grinding these. Now if they can just fix the bug that warps you out as soon as you enter, itll be great!
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