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# 301
11-14-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisoverlord View Post
Oh complaining won't work? Lets hope we see some real attempt to ameliorate our concerns.

(though I don't think it's our complaints more the total drop off in play time and death of STF queues)
I really hope it helps turn around what has become a fiasco. Putting come of these changes in was bad enough, given the additional Dilithium sinks with Season 7. Not telling the players about it beforehand was just plain insincere, and I think the biggest insult to many players; especially in a game that touts more transparency than other MMOs.

Even if they do reverse some of the changes, especially in regards to STFs, their reputation with current players will certainly be tarnished with what many can honestly say without a terrible amount of hyperbole was a "stealth nerf".

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# 302
11-14-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisoverlord View Post
Oh complaining won't work? Lets hope we see some real attempt to ameliorate our concerns.

(though I don't think it's our complaints more the total drop off in play time and death of STF queues)
Well let's hope it's a change that is for the good of this game. Not all of us have the free time to put in 3-4 hours a day, sometimes I don't even get time for 1 hour. Let's hope Mr Stahl gets these issues fixed.......

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Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 303
11-14-2012, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lewstelamon01 View Post
At least change is forthcoming, if the above twitter post is to be believed. Now, exactly WHAT direction that change is, or how much may be changed, is yet to be seen.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at dev meetings.
Riiight! I would kill to know what they're thinking sometimes.
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# 304
11-14-2012, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jexsamx View Post
Warriors!

The battle is turning in our favor! But remain vigilant! We know not what they intend to do, only that they intend to do something. Stay the course! Raise a mighty noise if you are still unsatisfied!

But most importantly, let this stand as proof! Proof that when a community's opinion is truly united, we can force change!

Well fought! Now fight on! Qapla'!

THIS.

And hopefully lowers the time needed for Foundry missions. No, I am not saying let the quickies earn again but I think the time should be shortened just a little bit. Otherwise it limits some missions from becoming worthless even though they shouldn't be.
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# 305
11-14-2012, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by obsidiusrex View Post
I really hope it helps turn around what has become a fiasco. Putting come of these changes in was bad enough, given the additional Dilithium sinks with Season 7. Not telling the players about it beforehand was just plain insincere, and I think the biggest insult to many players; especially in a game that touts more transparency than other MMOs.

Even if they do reverse some of the changes, especially in regards to STFs, their reputation with current players will certainly be tarnished with what many can honestly say without a terrible amount of hyperbole was a "stealth nerf".
Too bad they didn't listen when it was on Tribble, huh? They had to wait for more people to see the issue on live to realize it's a problem.
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# 306
11-14-2012, 02:10 PM
Well this will go down in history as dil-gate for more reasons than one, lets keep our fingers crossed and hope the solution is to put 980 dil back into STF's. Also a reduction in Doff grinder dil costs

My honest guess is that if there wasn't a huge drop off in people playing STF's today they it'd be business as usual for the devs. I think they've realized the ramifications of their actions.

Last edited by thisisoverlord; 11-14-2012 at 02:20 PM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 133
# 307
11-14-2012, 02:22 PM
Reserving judgement until the announcement is made.

@dstahl/bran: your move. You've got a real opportunity here to make S7 shine.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 27
# 308
11-14-2012, 02:28 PM
its good that i wait til s7 to decide to buy a lts,
foundry short missis out - btran out - stfs now only reduced instead of complete out and most stuff cost much dili - and with these changes you will make the players to get more dili - rofl
no lts for me - good luck with these decisions
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 316
# 309
11-14-2012, 02:28 PM
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Where Did All the Dilithium Go?*

Short answer ? Dilithium Ore is available as a reward directly from STFs and Fleet Action runs, and indirectly from Reputation projects. If you want to know more, then please read on.

But first, before we get to the changes in Season 7, let me take the opportunity to give some details about Dilithium.

Fleet Actions now reward Dilithium in addition to Better Gear*
Fleet Actions (such as Starbase 24, Gorn Minefield, etc) now award between 480 and 640 Dilithium (this will be in flux as we adjust rates) to ensure that the average level 50 player is earning more Dilithium by playing missions more accessible to the average player. In addition, Blue and Purple gear is now more reliably earned in Fleet Actions.

Normal STFs*:

480 Dilithium
Approx. 20 Omega Mark per STF (Varies per STF)
Bonus Objective: +25% more Omega Marks

Elite STF Runs*:

960 Dilithium
Approx. 60 Omega Mark per STF (Varies per STF)
Bonus Objective: +25% more Omega Marks
1 Borg Neural Processors
Ok so Dilithium has been re-added to STF's at lower rate now (Great). But they've now reduced the Dilithium rewards on the Fleet Actions? So essentially we're still only earning the same amount as before, but it's split across Fleet Actions and STF's. Targets are still the same though for Projects etc.

Well, I suppose it's something. Not really the fix I was hoping for. Don't get me wrong I don't expect it to be made so everything falls in our laps (like some people have suggested that is what we want), but at the same time I do expect realistic targets that are fair to all players including F2P, Gold, Lifers and people with a family, full time job etc.

I just hope this all doesn't go sour, as I only recently purchased a LTS for my wife. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
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# 310
11-14-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by partizan81 View Post
Reserving judgement until the announcement is made.

@dstahl/bran: your move. You've got a real opportunity here to make S7 shine.
Agreed!

Don't give us content and take away the resources to get it.
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