Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
# 31
11-14-2012, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by endafresh View Post
Bingo.
Cryptic are not non-English Chinese developers. They will be able to understand the players if you RAGE loud and often enough about this. Vote with your wallets as well, get as many as you can to do the same.

The only way anything will change is if the players voice loudly and succintly what their desires are and vote with their wallets not to support terribad design principles.

Blame not Cryptic, for they have to listen to those who sign their paychecks.
Blame PWE, the root of all Chinese-MMO evil. >_>
I voted with my wallet this afternoon and canceled my gold subscription (since day 1 of launch 33+ months, 1015 days the old fashioned way, not grandfathered in by swiping my credit card for $200 during the LTS promo) this afternoon. Guess I wont be seeing the 3rd anniversary after all.

To prove they don't care what you think, there's no survey asking you why you're canceling, no place to leave feedback, nothing. When I canceled World of W/\rcraft after the abomination that was Cataclysm, you get a BIG survey to let Blizzard know why you're quitting and even a place at the bottom to type in an modest length message.

I had to go poking around STO, Cryptic and PWE web sites for 30 minutes until I found a place I could leave feedback voicing my displeasure with the direction the game has taken (it was a PWE support page, fwiw). I listed what I've been alarmed by over the last few weeks (Dilithium gouging gone wild, nerfing missions to get dilithium, the grind centric mentality that's creeping into the game) but I doubt if PWE cares because my credit card has already been billed.
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,725
# 32
11-14-2012, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by luxchristian View Post
Lol. Oh my. An MMO and grinding at Endgame is standart. Even MWO has grinding. WoW had a LOT of grinding at endgame.
No one cares about what happens in other games. This is its own type of game. It shouldn't necessarily mimic the worst aspects of other games.

There's no excuse to remove dilithium rewards from PvE that facilitate completion of the new season 7 grind. It's just a greedy powerplay on the part of Cryptic. Not everyone wants to grind boring fleet actions. EliteSTF was about the only PvE I could stomach, and now it's just pointless for me to waste time on it.

If I didn't have my gear for my characters, I'd be pissed right now.


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Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 33
# 33
11-14-2012, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kar1972 View Post
It does not matter to complain about something that will not change. They don't care, pure and simple.

To everyone that whines about this, it does not matter if you whine or not.

Spread the word, and make people stop buying crap on the c-store or zen-store, or ****ty store.

The only way we can be listen to, is to kick their asses where it hurts, in the money.

So, no more lockbox keys to open stupid boxes, no more ships, no more doffs, no more nothing.

DONT SPEND MONEY ON THE ZEN STORE. And make your friends and fleet members do the same, stop buying crap at the store for 1, 2, 3 months.

In the mean time, they will notice this, I can guarantee this, then they will come running at the forums to see wtf is going on.

No more money on the store. No more money on the monthly subscriptions.
The more people do this, the better.

I already stop paying my subscription, and I will not buy anything else from the store, I advise everyone to do the same.

The LFT guys, you already spent your money, but do not buy every new shiny candy that pops up on the store.

Just stop giving them money.

Absolutely correct and i'll do the same.


If you are unhappy with the behaviour of a company then stop giving them any money at all, this and only this will make the company rething their decisions!
Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 30
# 34
11-14-2012, 02:55 AM
i like the new "drop" system. it is not based on luck, but after you decide what you want, you can make it yourself. everything is in your hands.
There are fast ways to obtain dilithium, e.g. sb24.

Last edited by shaeply; 11-14-2012 at 03:32 AM.
Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 263
# 35
11-14-2012, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shaeply View Post
There are fast ways to obtain dilithium, e.g. sb24.
fast, but not FUN ways. mindless, DPS-dealing race with zero teamwork and communication. i would rather do the more difficult STF's for dilithium, than this easy-and-fast, but crappy and pointless fleet action.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 56
# 36
11-14-2012, 04:07 AM
Before season 7, i played 3-4 stfs per day, mostly for fun and dil. I don't know if its nescessary now to play more than one per day. I don't even know if we need more than, let's say two stfs overall, now. Why should i play them? For some Omega marks? On top of that, the new Hive space elite stf is rediculously hard in comparision to the others. I pugged it and my team, despite being fairly well outfittet, needed more than half an hour ALONE for the Borg Queen ship with its ridiculous shields and hull, and even more ridiculous special attacks. I wouldn't even mind that it's very hard, but i don't play over an hour a mission for just 90 Omega marks or so...
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 60
# 37
11-14-2012, 04:15 AM
In fact the new episode is absolutely great! Can not see the topic here. As a live time player I can say it is a good choice of Cryptic and that is why I spent more than thousand euros over the last 6 month. The game starts to get the right direction for a fulfillment of great content and fair player system for ALL PLAYERS. So I will spent more next month, especially for the Vesta class. So go on Cryptic, you do a great job. And the advertising gaffe times overlooked here is the all in all very good.
Commander
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Posts: 279
# 38
11-14-2012, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by abrahamjohnson83 View Post
In fact the new episode is absolutely great! Can not see the topic here. As a live time player I can say it is a good choice of Cryptic and that is why I spent more than thousand euros over the last 6 month. The game starts to get the right direction for a fulfillment of great content and fair player system for ALL PLAYERS. So I will spent more next month, especially for the Vesta class. So go on Cryptic, you do a great job. And the advertising gaffe times overlooked here is the all in all very good.
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Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 483
# 39
11-14-2012, 04:45 AM
My major concerning is about dilithium. In season 5 dilithium wasn't much important, you needed it to buy some doffs or items and criptic point from others players... This is why to buy a cp you needed much more dilithium than now. In season 6 dilithium was more important because of fleet base system... Projects to advance, upgrade and improve the base can be really dilithium demanding, expecially for little fleets... So much demanding that a little fleet like mine had choose to stop building the base... Even if grinding dilithium was still easy, you could refine only 8k daily for each toon and that dilithium had to be enough to advance the base, buy doffs, items and so on...
Now with season 7 everything is much more difficult and someway impossible. Suppose you work all the day and you can play only 2 hours every day... Grinding dilithium is very difficult, no dilithium in stf, less dilithium in daily missions... Moreover fleet projects need great amount of dilithium and you have embassy and your reputazion system to advance too... I have also an example about how much expensive and illogic things can be. Lets talk about the dilithium requirement to get white doffs and convert them in a purple one. First of all you need 125 white doffs...by recruiting them at the accademy, you need 25 assignments... So 25000 dilithium. The second step is converting them in 25 green doffs paying 12500 dilithim. Second step is paying 12500 to convert the green doffs in 5 blue doffs... You end paying 5000 dilithium to get a purple doff... The sum is 55000 dilithium, to get a RANDOM purple doff with no special power... Much more than buying it from ferra or buying zen points at the exchange and than buy a reinforcement pack from the store. Moreover you have to evaluate how many days are required to finish the job... So much that there is no balance and no reason to do that job. Moreover to complete many projects, you need not only dilithium but also fleet or omega or romulan marks energy credits... Too many different item, too many time. I do not want a quick way to advance, but this is imho too much. Why do you need so many kinds of marks? Why not just 1-2 of it?

Moreover I am concerning also about how much "wallet depending" this game is at the moment. I like sto and I am a recurring subscriber... I understand that PW is not a no profit organization and that is my way to support the game. I also understand that some items and ships are sold from the zen store... But in the last months many interesting ships and items are avoidable only as random reward opening lockboxes or doffs pack... All of us understand that that is a way to pay a ship/item much more than any other item from the z-store with the restriction to bind it to one toon only.... Does PW really think that people will continue playing a game so much wallet and time depending? May be is better buying a game for my play station... It's cheaper
Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 40 Quiting
11-14-2012, 05:48 AM
I was happy-ish with what we were told comming up to the launch of season 7. After release, I will be cancelling my subscription and not buying the new 2500 zen ship.

My reasons are that the balance of the game seems entirely broken now. How long I stay around in F2P remains to be seen (no you cant have my stuff lol).
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