Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 237
# 131
11-18-2012, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
Complain all you want. I am not pro cryptic or PWE. I find what they have done to this game offensive tbh. The GRIND portion. Making the Borg actually dangerous? That I approve of, and believe that it's actually months too late. And I will tell you that I don't pop real often. Probably because I actually pay attention to what I am doing. The teams I roll with don't pop very often either. On any given ESTF (other than Hive Onslaught, that one is amazingly destructive), teams I roll with that we pre-make (or pre-made I should say, can't do that atm courtesy of the removal of private queues) usually have a single digit death count. For the whole team. You know why? Cuz we know each other, we work together, and we pay attention. I have had MANY runs post S7 post Borg remodeling in which nobody died. The entire STF. ISE, KASE, CSE, I have done runs of all of them in which nobody bought the farm. A few came within sight range of it, but nobody died.

If it weren't for timezone differences, I would accept your request to see me in action, but alas, I doubt that will be possible.
I'm up late, don't let the timezone issue get in your way.....
Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 42
# 132
11-18-2012, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lordcorrino View Post
I don't mind the Borg being tougher, but the current mechanic of shield penetration means that for escorts, 2 piece borg becomes essential, which is something I thought Cryptic wanted to get away from. My cruisers can tank well enough with other sets, but my escorts definitely need the hull regen bonus.
No it was the Deflect + Engine + Console + Any of the better shields combo they were trying to get away from. Atleast from the blog they posted way back about it atleast.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 891
# 133
11-18-2012, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by megacharge07 View Post
The problem with this is that this isn't a TV show, this is a video game. Video games are played because they are fun, when games lose their fun factor they stop getting played, if you happen to be running an MMO you need players playing your end game content and if they are not having fun they won't be playing for long, and the less time they spend on this game, means they will spend less money.

Both you and Hereticknight085 have made it clear that neither of you play elite STF, it's quite obvious in your comments, but to sum it up, everyone I know is dying non stop (vets) people are constantly complaining here and in game, different builds don't help, team fortress is a non factor (I have the steamrunner, used the console on a few different ships as well, and in conjunction with others using it)

I'm all for the Borg being tougher, but in reasonable sense.. The death fest going on now is idiotic from a gaming point of view, the Borg are OP and sheer overkill, STF is no longer fun, I play one elite STF just to get omega marks, then I don't play for a few days. No fun.
Dude, it's not that hard. You and your vet friends maybe need to take a look at their builds and play styles to make adjustments. Do you have Hazard Emitters? A supplemental hull heal(AtSif)? Are you aggroing everything within range because your hitting everything with AoE? I'm telling you right now that you sound ridiculous to anyone who is even mildly competent at the PvE in this game.

Last edited by xantris; 11-18-2012 at 02:40 AM.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 134
11-18-2012, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by megacharge07 View Post
I'm up late, don't let the timezone issue get in your way.....
Trust me, you don't stay up late enough for when I'm available to play. But whatevs, when I happen to get on, I'll do a shoutout and see if you're there.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Tired of Wasting EC and Time trying to get Superior Romulan Operative BOffs? Here's a cheap and easy way to get them, with an almost 100% chance of success.
Why the Devs can't make PvE content harder.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 135
11-18-2012, 06:20 AM
When I run STFs, I only do elite.

That being said, I have noticed a fairly sharp increase in the damage I am taking in them, mainly from the plasma dots. I have also noticed that there is something that blows right past my shields, and clobbers my hull when I get too cheeky with a gate. I used to fly figure eights through the center of a gate s6 with my Wells/Korath science time ship. Gates can now one shot me through full shields.

Is this a bug? Maybe, or it could just be that the borg are no longer a pushover. I now use a little bit of caution, and change my tactics. As a result, I don't die as often (now I only die when hazard emitters is on cd).

I happen to like it now that elite stfs are actually a challenge (outside of having the challenged on my team ).

People need to modify their gear and tactics in the meantime, and adjust to the increased damage.

It would be nice though if there was an additional reward, or better drops to go with the increased difficulty.



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Lieutenant
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 71
# 136
11-18-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bareel View Post
This is how most of my STF runs go, from an RP perspective

Tactical, fire all forward weapons!
Helm, one quarter speed forward
Rapid Fire those cannons son!
Helm, attack pattern beta one quarter speed reverse
Helm, one quarter speed forward
Gimmie a torp spread, oh and helm one quarter speed reverse

Its kinda, silly.
omg this made me laugh....thats exactly how my STFs go !
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 24
# 137
11-18-2012, 08:42 AM
There's certainly something up with hull damage but it's not constrained to Borg/STFs. I just flew through a Gorn warp plasma cloud in a fleet alert and the plasma DoT almost killed me from 100% hull. Previously it'd take about 25-30% hull from me.

STFs are tougher, as others have noted. One thing I know for sure is that the gate's cutting beam ignores shields completely. This may have always been the case and I'm only noticing it now due to taking more hull damage from it.

Most annoying are the invisible torps of doom. So many times Brace for Impact might've saved me if I'd seen it coming.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 161
# 138
11-18-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jniebaum View Post
No it was the Deflect + Engine + Console + Any of the better shields combo they were trying to get away from. Atleast from the blog they posted way back about it atleast.
They also said they didn't want a combination that was clearly better than everything else. IMHO they should make the borg do more damage to shields rather than higher penetration. That would be easier to balance.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 237
# 139
11-18-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xantris View Post
Dude, it's not that hard. You and your vet friends maybe need to take a look at their builds and play styles to make adjustments. Do you have Hazard Emitters? A supplemental hull heal(AtSif)? Are you aggroing everything within range because your hitting everything with AoE? I'm telling you right now that you sound ridiculous to anyone who is even mildly competent at the PvE in this game.
It's back to the way it was, a bit harder, which is good, but the devs have fixed it.. I hadn't played STF in a few days due to the faulty damage tables, so I guess they fixed it during the time I had stopped playing, hence why you guys aren't noticing anything, that's because the damage tables have been fixed. You guys obviously missed out on experiencing the damage tables when they were screwed to hell or you wouldn't being saying the things you're saying, and looking like fools and liars to those of us who knew what we were talking about when we said there was a major problem.

Thank you, to the devs who fixed the bugged out damages and making elite STF playable, fun and a bit more challenging again.

Last edited by megacharge07; 11-18-2012 at 07:23 PM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 228
# 140
11-18-2012, 07:22 PM
I have a tac operating a fleet defiant. I tried switching to 3 piece borg mk11 today. Now mind you, I run no aoe(crf+thy)omega 1 and 3, a hazard emitter and atsif1. I have no survival problems until the Gates and Tac Cubes.

The Gates and Tac Cubes have massive firepower. Coupled with a DEM and no shield can protect you. Unless you have a really well played cruiser to tank that stuff for you its pretty much pew pew til aggro and die, die fast that is.

My Tac Ody with engineer captain can aoe tank that stuff, it dose not mean he never dies, but he can stand the pounding much better than any escort.

I think the days of escort tanking elite Gates and Tac Cubes(not spheres and normal cubes) is over.

Now just give us players rewards for running something other than Infected.
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