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Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 251
11-15-2012, 04:01 AM
My problem with the whole dilithium scheme has nothing to do with STF's or fleet actions but with the underlying mechanic being used :

- make everything cost heaps of the stuff
- try to force players to play content you want them to play ,not necessarily what they like in order to get the stuff
- implementing a cap/cooldown on how often they can play that content

That isn't a "time based " currency but rather a scheme to slow down progression ( regardless of howmuch time you're willing to invest let alone effort ) so they won't burn through the content before you guys are able to produce the next batch of episodes .That will be the decisive factor : if progression is too fast you'll simply nerf dilithium again because there's no content left .

What you should do to expedite release of new content is get together a group of players ( easily recognized by reading the forums ) in a sort of unofficial player counsel and talk about the direction of the game . You can ask foundry authors for their input on mission/episode design even by making them sign an NDA prior to this process .
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# 252 The Gap needs people
11-15-2012, 04:27 AM
Dan you folded like a T-shirt at the gap.

Players you do see we are getting less for more work now, well at lest i got my 8K cap in record time without having to read about 10% or 5km.

Thanks Dan.
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# 253
11-15-2012, 04:35 AM
I am glad you have reversed your decision on the stf problem. Thank you for that.
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# 254
11-15-2012, 04:41 AM
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post

After many hours of deliberation and review of the post Season 7 player data, I've made the call to reverse the decision to remove Dilithium as a reward for running STFs. In addition, we've also decided to keep Dilithium as a reward in Fleet Actions.
Thank you. We're a small fleet and this will help us greatly as we much prefer running STF's together than anything else and before this reversal we'd effectively lost our lifeblood.

Does Cryptic have any plans to look at EDC's in the near future as the methods to collect these seem to have dropped off a cliff? Are they being phased out?
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# 255
11-15-2012, 05:08 AM
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

- A VERY happy player again.
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# 256
11-15-2012, 05:09 AM
Thank you for this.

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# 257
11-15-2012, 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by dastahl View Post

However, our concern that there would be too much Dilithium in the economy if we left Dilithium in both STFs and Fleet Actions has been outweighed by the frustration we've seen from STF fans since the launch of Season 7.
First, you can't do STF and Fleet action at the same time, so to claim that people would get more Dilithium if it remained in STF is bogus, because someone that does an STF doesn't get dilithium from a fleet action and vice versa.
Second, there already IS an 8000 dilithium daily refining cap, so that puts a hard limit on the amount of dilithium that can be injected into the market.
Third, you introduced several new massive dilithium sinks in recent time. The entire fleet starbase system in s6, and now the embassy dilithium sink, the reputation dilithium sink, and the duty officer dilithium sink, all of which remove large amounts of dilithium from the market.
So even if you had left the STF dil rewards the same, you still would have less dil in the market than before S7.
As far as I can see, your "concern" was completely unfounded.
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# 258
11-15-2012, 05:18 AM
Thank you for considering putting dilithium back to STF's.

Me and my 4 friends play this game very often in the night hours, socialising.
We would like ot thank you for NEW ROMULUS, the content, new planet and systems.
The game is growing and thatis how it should be.
I think I represent big group that likes the new content, but their expressions were probably coulded by the rage that arose after the dilithium cut.
I hope more people will realize that and express their opinion on the new content as well.

Looking forward to more content and any other FUN oriented changes.

We played yesterday Hive Onslaught Elite. I don't remember when I died so often, or when it took us over 45min to do STF. But the amount of fun I had with my friends was unbelievable.
Finaly is the ENDGAME an ENDGAME. Not soloing a tactical cube. We had to actualy fly around, retreat, attack etc.
That is how it should be I think.

I repeat what i said in your blog.... People should realize the difference how much play time they can have compared to store bought games played on consoles....
Show me 1 person who playes for example CoD for 3 years.....

Noxline, Laura Kinney, Alexejevna Grobari, Artagain Werlon, Meggie and friends from fleet TaskForce 77

Last edited by noxlin; 11-15-2012 at 06:05 AM.
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# 259
11-15-2012, 05:19 AM
What about item drops? What about dilithium from turning in stuff?
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# 260
11-15-2012, 05:57 AM

seeing all these thanks, i cannot help being stunned how easily they get away with this ...
removing all Dil and(!!!) loot ... coming back within one day saying "yeah sry, we listen to u players we will add it again"

*tinfoil head wrap mode on* ppl have warned, they ll do it to make u accept all the crappy changes *tinfoil head wrap mode off*

they added countless new dilithium sinks, ie:
- STF projects
- DOFF exchange/reassign
(remember the old dil costs for this? here is the new ones:

"The Dilithium cost associated with Reassignments has been increased:
White to Green: Now 500 Dilithium
Green to Blue: Now 2500 Dilithium
Blue to Purple: Now 5000 Dilithium")

so in short, gettin a proper amount of dil without playing 24/7 ... almost impossible now,
gettin proper gear (regular purple mk12 stuff) ... not possible anymore (at least in STFs),
gettin MACO or OMEGA gear, spend all ur money on dil and maybe,
gettin good purple DOFFs, spend all ur money on dil and maybe

WELL i am about to become a very casual player (if at all, maybe have a look at SWTOR), dont see why I should invest anymore time into this game

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