+10 internets to you, good sir.

I would agree that selling ship packs for 45 euros is to expensive unless it is an elite item wich is pretty much alitle bit better than any other ship of its class. However I do think what the developers are doing letting all high end ships (fleet and z-store) range from about 193 euros to 45 (2000 zen to 5000 zen) is not the best solution. Considering most people probobly end up changing their minds changing ships every now and then and just 3 ship changes will be about 60 euros that's pretty expensive - not too mention if you have toon. Also keep in mind that the digital product we are buying is fairly quickly and easy to develop compared to other large expansion packs or entire games that costs the same. Ofcourse this can't change because the price have already been set to this level for this type of items. However I would like them to let other new contentthat would eventually come into the game like say zen store consoles or set's too be much cheaper. This way the price is more in line with the work put into a few very small items.

Also a very important note that the developers schould notice is that people really wants "everything" so selling cheaper zen store items would led alot more to buy them because their affordable but people that are willing to dump alot of cash into the game (me included) will dump it into the game anyways because they want to have all the new shiny stuff you guys developes

my point being: People who buy these crappy old plastic things for such pricetags are the same people that pay such amounts for a few Polygons and Textures and you dont even need to write "rare" on it. (there is nothing rare about that Bird of Prey).

That's the Playerbase we are all dealing with here.

I don't even blame Cryptic for the prices, i blame the players who pay for it, if i had a thing going like that and noticed that i could ask whatever price i want and people would buy anyway, i'd do the same thing.

I'd have thought someone that had been here all this time (the same length of time as myself for the record) would have been quite familiar with the creeping monetization of everything in this game - the latest nerfs to Dilithium earning and the corresponding increase in Dilithium costs being a glaring example - but for some reason you choose to ignore it. That's your right of course as it is mine to speculate where next Cryptic/PWE will look to squeeze money from us (as they're not done yet).

And what you regard as ill-informed, heat of the moment doom calling I see more as an inevitable progression of the current chain of decision making underpinning the game. Time will tell which of us was 'right'. In the meantime, I'll continue to pay Cryptic what I feel is a reasonable price for services offered which at the moment is zero. They have the means to change that but with people such as yourself around, little incentive it seems.

Sales 101 indeed.

But you're talking about a company that screwed up so badly with the Dilithium changes in Season 7 that they've had to change direction. There's little-to-no business sense at work here - just a desire to recoup maximum return for minimum outlay.

I myself have been here since open beta as a lifer(my main, borg engineer still uses the crash test tribble title from s1 test),im just not using the lifer forum tags,i dont know if i should believe stahl when he says the game is really profitable atm and STO has a bright future or not but since ive been here as long as i have and my experience with other games/companies i know what to expect.funny thing is if doomsayers in this thread remember ppl have been doomsaying since launch and look where we are at now.

And in response I'd ask exactly where the 'doom-sayers' are in this thread? I merely remarked that prices are currently too high for me to consider purchasing what Cryptic is offering. I also predicted that at some point we'd see $99 ships (or bundles) in the C-Store which to me seems a logical progression of the increasing monetization of the game.

I suppose you think the prices will get cheaper?

[quote=weylandjuarez;6608881] I also predicted that at some point we'd see $99 ships (or bundles) in the C-Store which to me seems a logical progression of the increasing monetization of the game.

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It is not logical to charge more than the market can stand. If $99 ships will sell better than $50 ships interms of overall profit then yes they will be charged accordingly. There is no evidence to suggest that price point is on the horizon at all.

So, doom calling. Right.

You're still not getting it, so I'll be plainer:
I'm not trying to get into a whole, "I'm right, you're wrong" kind of deal. Time will only tell what it will tell, and I am completely accepting of that, because I am being objective and realistic.
You, and plenty of other people in this thread, are not. You are basing your arguments and opinions on pretty much nothing substantial.
Meanwhile I, and a handful of other people in this thread, are trying to be reasonable and rational about things. Which is being not-so-kindly ignored or downplayed. Thanks.
I don't care either way.
And honestly, I'd rather play the game that Cryptic has than the game you, and others like you, are.
(which in case you missed it, is doom speaking and hyperbolic nonsense.)
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a video game to play.

I would like to point out that you said right b4 cryptic shuts down it would offer $99 ships,and no i dont think they will get cheaper,unless you look at a quickie sell like the steamrunner pack for $10.i just dont see their price system changing much.the bug ship is how they mooch money when that attach it to something.the c-store ships are comparable in price to what other games offer.like my reference to WoT as similar thread had shown up there at some point from the f2p babies who wanted the benefit of "gold" tanks without paying for them.due to the prices of some of the tanks in that game being $50 for a SINGLE tank. Ppl QQed but look where WoT is now the game gets reliable patches every month with new maps/tech trees etc cause of those of us who wanted more out of the game. (in that game the term is wallet warrior or paypal paratrooper btw rofl)