just because you on a low pop server dont mean i am dont think you know what i play just because thing dont go well for you dude

just because you couldnt find ppl with say xpack dont mean i didnt

Pardon me for asking but are we not an already segregated playerbase ?
There IS base content for everyone to enjoy already .
You have your basic STF's , pvp maps , generic story progression .

But take a good look at the segregated playerbase :

STF-res got catered to for the first time in 2+ years , with 2 new missions .

KDF-ers got one single mission in the last ... how long exactly ?

PVP-ers got ... (well that's just a sad story that makes baby J. cry)

FE fans ? They gat something one year ago that smacked of story that was built around game play mechanics (instead of the other way around) .

Foundry fans ? Well they sometimes get hand-me-downs , and once in a great while some assets tagged .

Grind Fans ?
They got Both S6. and S.7 .

MMO's are about the grind ? Yes .
Are they only about the Grind ?

Take a look at the segregated player base above and tell me how the Grind benefited them exactly ?
Tell me how the Grind somehow made them NOT WANT the specific content that they like ?

Also , tell me how exactly "everyone" is happy when KDF get's a new mission , or if PVP get's a new map (yea right ) or how everyone jumps for joy if the Foundry gets a few maps .
Why should the "casual" fan rejoice at a new STF ? Most likely he can't play it .

The Grind is the most common denominator .
It's boring as heck , but everyone can do it .

So if you support the fact that Cryptic is not capable to catering to any of the above groups in any timely fashion what so ever , then please , by all means , support the Grind and oppose DLC's .

Again, the argument somehow goes back to "I'm not satisfied with the Grind". This thread is about DLC, not about the grind in S7.. they're 2 different issues.

Clearly you've not tried playing LOTRO yet to know that not everyone has the newest and latest DLC. When you try looking for people to quest with, you need to find people who has bought the DLC. And that wait can be quite long, if you don't have a group of friends who basically sticks together and buys all the DLCs your little group wants to play.

Really.. don't argue with me, no point. Go try LOTRO as a free player (its Free!), you'll know what i mean.

So - No to DLC.. make content free for everyone, charge us some other way if you insist on making this a F2P.

On one hand I kinda like the idea that content is provided for free and stuff like c-store ships and items and other stuff is how the game is monetised. On the other hand, I don't know how many more ships they could possibly release before you start veering into non-canon stuff (really that threshold was reached awhile ago though...).

I'd like to see more FE, more story content and so on. And hell I'd even pay for it. But then the guys who are saying this segregates the community have a point if you need that DLC to play missions with other people.

Though if you look at it glass-half-full style, at least there is content that you aren't finding people to play with, unlike this game where the main reason you can find someone is that there is so little content that everyone is funneled into the same stuff

No matter what, the Developers have said they won't bring out paid for story content and at the moment their own free story content, frankly... honestly... sucks.

There are many creative minds and great story tellers about, if Cryptic unlocked the foundry fully and allowed us to use all it's tools, we the playerbas could drive content, and they the developer could award good storie with Zen for the creators, say 10,000 for monthly first placed story, 5000 for second place and 2500 for third place.

The first place story would perhaps also make it into the actual game at somepoint!?

Also make them pay out with item drops, marks and dilithium.

We the players are perhaps the greatest resource for story content but we're hogtied by the limited foundry we have access to.

For the 'right price' I would pay for Story Content (not Endgame Missions like STFs).

Those people saying that it would hurt the player base, are you really playing all the normal Missions in a team?

I would pay for a Romulan Empire expansion. Or a Cardassian or a Dominion Expansion.

I agree with those who say, to avoid "LOTOR syndrome", that "pay-gating" content should be a limited time only deal...

It's worked ok for the movies for so long - theater, then "premium movie channels" then "newtork TV". Heck, the first time I ever saw ST:TMP was when it finally made it to the "ABC Sunday Night Movie" (or something like that)...

If Cryptic advanced the story on a quarterly basis, and only "pay gated" the current quarter's story arc, then both worlds are most likely satisfied - the content is subsidized by the "we'll pay for it crowd" over a quarter's time (and to milk it for all it's worth in that quarter Cryptic needs to ensure it's of high enough quality to convince us to pay for it), then it goes F2P and everyone can play it no problem, if the reviews indicate that it wasn't their cup of tea or the quality was "hey look, it's another pile of clickies with a text blurb at the end..."

I don't agree , but I can respect that you think so .
From my perspective this request for a DLC did not come out of nowhere .
It is tied to second season of Grind that we've just been handed .

Look at this this way :
Cryptic could have done One Season Grind followed by One Season of Story -- and so on and so forth .
Instead , they did one season of grind (S.6) , and one more season of grind (with extras) -- S.7 .

The result : ppl asking for a DLC because there is little else to do but grind .
You don't see the connection ?
Or you just don't want to see it ?
I mean it's cool if you r happy w/things the way you are , really . I'm glad someone is .

I can imagine that that's harsh .
And you are not wrong when you say that that can cause a divide .
But tell me , is waiting 2+ years for a new STF better solution ?
Or for a new pvp map or A NEW PVP mechanic for over 2.5 years ?
Or for a FE to drop once a year ?

You are saying that all that wait is ok , because you don't want to wait for other players in a queue .
Or maybe you are saying that all that wait is ok because you believe the "PW party line" about providing content the players want for free .

You know what , I wish that was true .
Reality has taught me better .


Heh , longer then hanging out in Gamma Orianis prior to Season 5 , "shouting" in sector space chat to start a KDF only STF (because no queue system existed) ?

No kidding .