Think about that for a moment - what you're saying there.

Think about the reputation that comes from what you suggest...

...it may not be what you think it is.

Yes it might seem very arbitrary, but those skills weren`t provided to you equally as to all players, since you payed to get them. And I think most people knows how they feel about folks paying themselves an andvantage. Problem arises when these p2w thingies become such an advantage that the other party is forced to do the same to keep up. An analogy: Its like the USSR and US massing nukes not to fall behind each other. And all of us knew that if a conflict broke out, no one would win.

So yes, self-policing might be the answer in this age of not earned but bought skill.

Im having a hard time to think of anything else i would want from this game: To have fun and to win.

But prey, do tell.

I'll break out Tom and Jerry for this.

Tom plays to win - plays to crush. It's the most important thing to him. Everybody knows it. Tom won't cheat - but Tom will do anything up to cheating to win. The most important thing to him is winning.

Jerry plays to have fun - he hopes that everybody has a blast while fighting. He puts time into being as good as he can be and enjoys winning, but he's not willing to risk not having fun by doing certain things. Even people he beats like him - cause everybody having fun is the most important thing to him.

So what kind of reputation does Tom have?
So what kind of reputation does Jerry have?

Tom might think that he's got a reputation as a winner. Others likely see him as a wiener and avoid him like the plague. Whether fighting with him or against him - it's just not fun.

Jerry doesn't give a rat's ass about reputation. People respect him for that - wanting to fight with or against him. Doesn't matter, it's all fun.

Reputation matters...like you said.

It's not a case that Jerry plays to lose in the least...but Jerry doesn't lose like Tom does in playing to win the way Tom does.

Details, details! You know VERY well what im talking about. I could picked other examples which were exclusivly p2w, and you know that. That Cryptic cant balance their own freaking game is old news.

Spoken like a true scrub!

But youre forgetting there is a fine line between it all. In this example Tom was back in the days DoB. They played to only win, have their own fun and would even laugh at people in the forums claiming they were cheating. In essence they were just using all the legitimate mechanics provided to them from Cryptic. DoB was a damn good fleet, rivaling if not better then TSI. They even went into arenas without using shields and they still won. Their downfall on the other hand was their less then forthcoming attitude which made all other players in the community despise them.

Although i will say your example holds merit. What most fleets do, and what i suspect they do, is to keep a fine balance between Tom and Jerry. Too much Tom will get you disliked because of an elitist and exploiting attitude, and too much Jerry you go down the scrub line, imposing a mindset of rules that prevents you from winning in the first place.

So i stand by my words regarding reputation: I play to win, and i play to have fun. Me and my fleet actions will speak for themselves.

Which gives us this...

...while having said this earlier in this same thread...

...and that's how some folks develop a reputation.

Another awesome video by the evil Klingun Thissler! But in real life is he a film director?

Oki, lets use concret examples, and i want examples how I or others in my fleet have been using bugs or obvious gamebreaking exploits.

Have you seen me or any in my fleet use obvious bugs like the vold bug? If you do, tell me at once. How you seen any of us use cheap skills like grav pulse, AMS, grav anchor of late? Heck if Hilbert knew if anyone did, there would be a huge quarrel on vent.

edit: What other fleets or player do is their concern.