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# 11
11-21-2012, 11:38 AM
Bout the only thing I'd like better than climbing back into my old Pach (with Qin BOFF/Console layout) would be to have same layout as above, in a D7 cruiser. Er perhaps the mirror Qin layout would be better.
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# 12
11-21-2012, 12:07 PM
New Gorn ship? I love the way Gorn ships look, I just don't own any because none of them are level 50s. Gorn flight deck cruiser with turn rate of 9?!

*drool*

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# 13
11-21-2012, 12:30 PM
A shuttle comparable to the Delta Flyer would be nice.

... as would a Alpha War Targ combat pet.
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# 14
11-21-2012, 12:46 PM
Well on as how a multipurpes raptor is op is just how op a Sci ship whit cannons on Aux is so imo its a balance in this case...

and way i whant to see a c-store raptor is coz Feds have the promethius and tactical escort refit (defient) from whay back plus the Armitage, and i dont care to count the numerus crusers and a jsut as big selection of Sci ships 1 carrier...

KDF one bop, 0 raptors, 1 destroyer, 4 crusers, 1 sci, 1 carrier and 1 Fight deck in c-store...

Yes im talking about end game ships!!!

this thin selection of ships is silly compered to amount of ships in the federation arsenal...

Last edited by bombarding; 11-21-2012 at 12:50 PM.
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# 15
11-21-2012, 12:56 PM
I fail to see how the Vesta's aux cannon is overpowered, personally. Yeah: it gives you 1 good weapon when you throw all your power into auxiliary. But now every other energy weapon you've got is running on fumes. Is 1 fully charged dual cannon better than, say, 3 fully charged turrets? (Pro tip: no)

I'm thinking everybody who thinks this feature is really overpowered hasn't thought the implications through all the way.
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# 16
11-21-2012, 01:07 PM
Aux cannons on a sci ship means that u can focus on only Aux and shields so basically ur focusing ur energy compared to say running the KDF carrier that use Weapons and Aux energy so u have to divide it...

So why run a beam on a Vesta when u can run turrets and cannons on Aux (and u have the console beam that runs on Aux)...
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# 17
11-21-2012, 01:17 PM
You can't run turrets and cannons on Aux. Even if you get 3 aux DHCs fore, your aft weapons are still running on Weapons power, and you can't set them both to 100. Plus you've given up your subsystem targeting by packing zero beams.

As far as 'a Raptor to match the Armitage,' I guess the first goal of this sort of discussion is to decide whats on the agenda? Is it to create more cosmetic possibilities for the KDF? Is it to match Fed ships tit for tat? Is it to add more playstyle options to the KDF bench? Is it just 'he got one so I want one too' ? This particular thread was originally 'counter of the Vesta,' so that seems to suggest a multi-role science-leaning ship, jack of all trades master of none.
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# 18
11-21-2012, 01:35 PM
Well more cosmetic options for the KDF raptors is nice and yes to get a bigger work bench on the KDF side...

no matching tit for tat is not rely the point imo Fed side shude have an "op" Sci side and KDF shude have the the "op" tactical side coz of how thay operate imo...

Now im not saying that it shude be inbalance between the 2 factions nor if thay ad a 3ed...

(and as u can get a fleet defient that basically is that ship counter to what im suggesting)

as both factions need tactical/cruiser/sci ships to make a effective fleet...

as far as i know sci is not counter to sci but i cude have been wrong all this time...

ok so i whas wrong about the turrets... fine... i dont use em any way...

and for ur "sub-targeting" wepons battery worked fine last time i checed if u feel the need to use em...

Last edited by bombarding; 11-21-2012 at 01:41 PM.
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# 19
11-21-2012, 04:24 PM
I like the idea of a Ferasan Sci/Tac vessel and maybe even a Leathen version as well.
I would like to see a Nausican Battle Cruiser as well
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# 20
11-21-2012, 04:28 PM
With the arrival of Aux based cannons I wonder how many have tried maintaining high weapons and Aux via cycling the EPTx abilities and other power buffing options?
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