Fun is pretty much the main reason I PvP. I enjoy the challenge, especially when compared to the mind numbingly easy PvE.
I enjoy fights that are gimmickless (no P2W consoles, no trics, no SNB doffs etc, no power siphons), just using skill and intelligence (with regards to builds) and are either pug vs pug or premade vs premade. Basically I enjoy a fair fight, whether or not that leads to me being blown up.
Personally I find I get more enjoyment out of pug matches, since there's more self reliance and hinges more upon individual skill.
On the other hand getting focus fired while getting numerous hold/slow/stun disable isn't remotely enjoyable, since it takes control away from me. This is infact one of the reasons I primarily run an escort instead of a cruiser, as APO means I can break most holds and slows.
Also to be honest I find cross healing to be an added bore. Watching someone who has zero skill being kept on lifesupport by his team is annoying. Don't get me wrong, as long as it's available in the game I'll cross heal, I just find it makes a match less enjoyable.
First, Snoge00f, what is FOTM? I can't quite figure out what you mean.
Second, I REALLY wanna make a joke here.
Third, I find the most fun to be an exhilarating match, using skill and effort to try and defeat the opponent, not just cheap tactics. It's really very exciting when another player and I, in an arena or something start to duke it out, doing an unexpected 1 v 1. Sometimes I kill that player, sometimes that player kills me. Either way, it''s almost always extremely enjoyable.
When it starts getting into paid-for consoles and ships, with every bit of cheapness under the sun to win, then it loses it fun. When the enemies are weak, without any to no skill or just AFKing, then it also can lose it's fun.
To me, PvP is fun, and as long as it stays fun and enjoyable, I'll do it. When it loses it's fun, I stop doing it.
The real fun is...to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
Seriously, fun means do not give any importance to an humiliating defeat when you have done everything possible to prevent it.
Fun means to lose against the evul Klinguns in arena and having been the best Fed.
Fun means to vaporize a Vo'quv or a Kar'fi and then escape from the targ packs (Bops and Raptors) vengeance.
Fun means to congratulate your enemy when he defeat you with skill and cleverness and without dirty tricks.
Fun means to remember this is a game and we are all here to have just fun!
This is a real Starfleet Cruiser, the awesome Adm. Marcus Vengeance! Stol Fed Cruisers suck!
Guy on our PUG flies out there fast, notes that it's a premade, and says there's no hope. They're very light on the cheese though - so he's calling targets, and although we lose - it's not that bad. There was still some fun to be had - it was the basic if we'd been a team, worked better together, etc, etc, etc - could have been a great match. It was an acceptable loss - a logical loss.
Teamed with that guy again. He starts calling targets, but it's not long before he drops. The rest of us keep fighting, but I choose not to queue after that. I'm not sure what cheese this group didn't use. It was like an aggregate of complaints from the forums - would have made a great video for the devs to watch - hey guys, this is what folks are complaining about. There was no fun in the least - it was just one of those why am I bothering with this game moments.
It's possible to lose and still have fun - to want to keep playing.
It's possible to lose and want to uninstall the game - to bad mouth the devs to all your friends and random strangers while waiting in line at the grocery store.
Fun's very important...
edit: BTW, that was FvF Arena. Earlier on a KDF toon, in a KvF match - our PUG beat their PUG in a 4v4 C&H. All the same though, it wasn't fun. Say what? Two of the Feds were AFKers from the start. It was a meaningless victory - where the AFKers sucked the fun out of it for both their team and our team.
It's possible to win and still not have fun.
Fun's very important, in case you missed that earlier...
Willard the Rat, Klingon, Sci (60), U.S.S. Tong Vey, Geneva Command Battlecruiser (FT6), Inner Circle
Meena, Ferasan, Tac (60), I.K.S. vagh SuD bas, B'rel Retrofit Bird-of-Prey (T5U), Ho'ragh [WIP] No-Fleet, T5U B'rel Retrofit Build
Last edited by virusdancer; 11-25-2012 at 04:27 PM.