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# 41
12-01-2012, 01:35 PM
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But not for 300 years maybe
Both Alexander and Caesar intended to explore the great sea, and both would have if they didn't die to unrelated misfortunes. It is more or less by chance that contact between Europe and the Americas didn't open much sooner than it did.

Besides, Roman legions and Greek phalanx squaring off against Inca atl-atl would have been quite a sight.

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Actually there was No civilian rocket science prior to the late 1970's
Factually incorrect. Goddard was a civilian.
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# 42
12-01-2012, 01:38 PM
But not a civilian agency

Actually the Hoplites were mainly defensive they would have been unlike to fare well against Inca tactics

Of course Rockets were weapons centuries ago

Alexander of course had something else in common with caesar (both had "the falling sickness")
Weirdly Genghis Khan may have been diabetic
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# 43
12-01-2012, 04:09 PM
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Freighters travel the sea all the time now, but back in the days of Cook or Columbus it was dangerous business indeed. And accidents at sea still happen.

A lot can happen in a few hundred years.



If they are getting handouts from the govt it is no more a private venture than any other form of welfare. The private sector does NOT have more resources - the problems of private space flight are trying to do everything on the cheap.

I supplied proof of my position with reference to specific facts and data. Your unwillingness to accept those facts does not invalidate them.

Private space travel sucks, can't do what governments have done for 50 years - and not for want of trying - and the only justification for it is ideological bias.
Ummm what facts, what figures have you posted, all you have given is your opinion, no hard evidence. Honestly yes it will take time but now, things are picking up again since the commical businesses interests in space tourism. There will be always going to be risks but still it in also in our blood to explore it will happen sooner or later.
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# 44
12-01-2012, 04:30 PM
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Honestly yes it will take time but now, things are picking up again since the commical businesses interests in space tourism. There will be always going to be risks but still it in also in our blood to explore it will happen sooner or later.
This is your opinion. And hurling small objects into low orbit for the sake of short-term $$$ is not exploration.

What is a fact, and not an opinion, is what has happened up to now, which is dismal results with private travel and promising results with national programs.
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# 45
12-01-2012, 07:25 PM
No! That's the short of it.
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# 46
12-02-2012, 03:05 AM
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This is your opinion. And hurling small objects into low orbit for the sake of short-term $$$ is not exploration.

What is a fact, and not an opinion, is what has happened up to now, which is dismal results with private travel and promising results with national programs.
still not seeing you facts or figures yet. What they are doing now is not only to make money, the technologies, methods etc will go further in the long run, they are taking baby steps. They are already thinking of making a space port or station on the opposite side of the moon in a place called the Lagrangian something cant't remember the full name but apparently its where there is no gravity there so the object can remain stationary and this will be a stepping point to go to Mars. Baby steps.

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# 47
12-02-2012, 03:07 AM
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No! That's the short of it.
yes this is true, they will use that money they are making to improve or make newer technologies.
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