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# 41
12-03-2012, 04:40 PM
If you want the best solo ship, go with an escort. It will own hands down, even through the Cardassian missions....
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# 42
12-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Yep thought so
the Escort boys joining forces to mess people up
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# 43
12-03-2012, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Yes and im Right

See you are bringing stuff from threads and using it to make a wrong point

All I said here was that escorts solo are not a good idea in the cardassian missions

which is accurate
No it is not accurate. It's just your opinion, which you haven't brought in any argument for. It's really simple, you can't get an escort to work and seeing your hate for escort pilots it's probably also just not your playstyle.

Again, for everybody else who is interested here's an PvE Escort thread. It's no longer active but just read a couple of the opening posts which of course can be applied to everything PvE out of STFs too.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=244532


Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Yep thought so
the Escort boys joining forces to mess people up
And I'm still not an escort boy Already forgot about that Janeway thing?
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Last edited by decker03; 12-03-2012 at 04:48 PM.
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# 44
12-03-2012, 04:50 PM
I CAN get an escort to work (I created three test alts for the purpose)
it is however less efficient than a cruiser
And is a LOT less efficient for cardassian missions

See Anyone can fly escorts but it doesn't make them effective

not everyone is the same
but I know a lot of people who agree with me on this
several cardassian missions are damage heavy and you need something that can survive for a few minutes
Ie not an escort (the defiant is not an escort its more a super version of a bird of prey)
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# 45
12-03-2012, 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
I CAN get an escort to work (I created three test alts for the purpose)
it is however less efficient than a cruiser
And is a LOT less efficient for cardassian missions

See Anyone can fly escorts but it doesn't make them effective

not everyone is the same
but I know a lot of people who agree with me on this
several cardassian missions are damage heavy and you need something that can survive for a few minutes
Ie not an escort (the defiant is not an escort its more a super version of a bird of prey)
Agreed, as anyone could fly a cruiser or science ship.

Personally, nothing in solo pve really lasts long enough against an escort piloted properly.
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# 46
12-03-2012, 04:54 PM
ANEEEWAY!

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Originally Posted by gallantskeptic View Post
Can anyone recommend a good ship and fit for a science officer to solo missions?
As suggested: Get a Mirror Ship off the Exchange if you have the EC since they go for relatively cheap. They're better than the free ships in some respects, worse in others. I say this because I find you're more effective when you match ship type with career. But you won't really be gimped in the missions if you mix. You'll just have to adjust the Boff skills to suit.

If you plan to do the STFs and other PUGs at some point you'll have to buy/ grind for purple everything regardless of ship type or else you'll get yelled at by players who take that sort of thing waayyy too seriously, so keep that in mind.
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# 47
12-03-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by decker03 View Post
Ok Goofy last try. Of course there is a shorter cooldown on the second copy. That's why you cycle 2 copies of Emergency Power to Shields or even 2xEPtS and 2xEPtW together for constant uptime.

It doesn't matter at all (!!!) if these 2 copies are on the same or two different bridge officers. Believe it or not, but stop telling people nonesense. Whatever mixture of rank 1, 2 or 3 of an ability you use is not important at all for cooldowns.

You simple do not know anything reasonable about game mechanics and basic ship building. This is not a discussion about PvE vs PvP or your hatred of PvP. As you clearly see on yourself a bad build (in this case escorts) can even fail on PvE. Actually I'm not quite sure why it is so difficult to survive, all you need is a tac team and EPtS and maybe half a brain so you don't jump right in the middle of an enemy group that will shred you.

There are as many failscorts as there are fail cruisers. Both die in seconds, both will deal close to zero damage even if they stay alive.
In spite of the arguing, I learned something. I didn't realize having two BOFFs with the same ability would reduce the downtime of the skill. I thought it was just a wasted skill. That will give me something else to think about.
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# 48
12-03-2012, 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
I CAN get an escort to work (I created three test alts for the purpose)
it is however less efficient than a cruiser
And is a LOT less efficient for cardassian missions

See Anyone can fly escorts but it doesn't make them effective

not everyone is the same
but I know a lot of people who agree with me on this
several cardassian missions are damage heavy and you need something that can survive for a few minutes
Ie not an escort (the defiant is not an escort its more a super version of a bird of prey)
You know, we could run around each other till the world's end or at least till December 21, it won't change anything. You can't build escorts (I won't say anything about other ship classes you fly). If you could you would not die in simple PvE missions.

There is nothing special about the cardassian missions and nowhere you have to survive for minutes (!!!) a dangerous situation wuth basic ship building knowledge. Knowledge that can be achieved ingame on your own or by reading the forums.

What's your problem there? Is it the subnukes from Jem'Hadar or Repulsors. Really, amuse us and get creative with an explanation. Nobody is saying you have to fly escorts to be sucessful, fly whatever you want, but do not make people think going cruisers is the only way to win PvE. It is really simple, fly whatever you want, but escorts are hands down the fastest way to get through it if you aren't braindead or just ignorant towards the information provided on the forums.
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# 49
12-03-2012, 05:01 PM
I managed to pick up a Well Science Ship and am running with it currently. (with the three piece Temporal set)

I like it, I'm not particularly good at the STF's but with this ship I have been able to survive 99% of the time, even in the Hive Onslaught.

Before that I was using the ODDY Sci with all three console and did very well also.

The ship that I spent most of the game in with my SCI toon was the Refit Excelsior, love that ship.

I'm not a Min/Max player so I tend to stay away from the TAC ships except when I'm using my TAC Toon.

However, I do like the Steamrunner and was also doing rather well with that one before I got the Wells.

Last edited by herbie1966; 12-03-2012 at 05:06 PM.
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# 50
12-03-2012, 05:04 PM
Try Escorts work if you are equipped with split second reflexes

the world will still be here on the 22nd

And not Everyone falls for ideas of the world ending

"ship building knowledge" does not protect you against four ships appearing on top of you while you have a message window open
Nor make you impervious to mines
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