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# 11
12-05-2012, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rudiefix1 View Post
other interesting thing: Combat log shows that it does 2 types of damage: shield damage + kinetic damage.
That seems very interesting because one of the biggest problems with it was lack of shield damage.
Edit: Are you sure that this is not the kinetic (or whatever energy type you are using) and shield damage all weapons have.

Edit 3: One is the bleedthrough and the other is the damage to the shields or the "main" damage.

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Originally Posted by disposeableh3r0
It is affected by energy weapons skills.
Very suprised since it does kenetic damage, guess the devs choose to "hook" it up



Also, am concerned that the weapon has no ACC mods but it is only one weapon...
I am going to try some tests now but I don't think I will determin much (well I am not good at testing power level stuff).

Edit 2: when shields are up against my test ship (another account (non-moving) at level 46 with 6 in energy damage resist and 6 in threat control and 0 in kinetic resist) shield damage is 160-190 (reman mk x) with bleedthrough being 70-80 and without shields (took them off) 700-800 (all damage is each "tick" or "hit" (4 per firing cycle) and only firing the cutting beam (not other weapons)). So without counting bleedthrough when shields are on thats approx 23% (lets just say 25%) of damage when firing on shields as oppose to hull.

It also looks as if distance from target scales damage.

Edit 3: From a firing distance of 9.42km and no buffs at 125 weapon power in a Fleet Patrol Escort with nothing enhancing damage except for 4 mk xi blue polaron consoles and the borg console and accx3 mk xi polaron turrets and DHC on the same ship as above I did these tests by (non-moving, shield power at 100 and aux at 50):

1. Started firing cycle and alt tabed to the other game (where the other char resided)
2. As first volley from firing ship approached activated Emergency Power to Shields II and tactical team (rotated both tac teams throughout the duration)
3. As soon as Emergency Power to shields II ended activated Emergency Power to Shields I.
4. When Epts I was 3-5seconds from ending switched back to other char and stopped firing by clicking away.

Combatlog screenshots in .png format inside zip folder http://www.mediafire.com/?sp90clc3d08aya2.

Note: Remember to take crit hit amounts into account for each weapon (and also hits) and remember that the firing cycle thingy for cutting beam lasts a long time so will spread throughout firing cycles.

My conclusion (for PvP, or anything else with a lot of shields on a escort build (Cannon Rapid Fire)): Is that you are better without cutting beam, it has low crit hit chance (meaning it will scale worse with Attack Pattern Alphies Crit Damage boost etc than other weapons), low accuracy (well I am assuming it has the same strike chance as any other non-acc modded weapon and everyone who plays PvP will have at least one acc mod, and Cannon Rapid Fire will drive it further into the ground since it dosen't benefit from it.

Edit 4: Actually those acc weapons probably would of been benefiting from acc crit chance overflow since the target wasen't moving so forget the crit hit chance (that does stuff the results up a bit but I think my point still stands).

And I doubt it matters but the weapon slot I used for the cutting beam was the middle turret.

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Last edited by afree100; 12-05-2012 at 01:47 AM.
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# 12
12-05-2012, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by afree100 View Post
It also looks as if distance from target scales damage.

YEs, distance matters.

Also, when shields are down, one single beam already burns the hull severely

And maybe the shield damage In reffered to before is cause from tet glyder. Not sure about that


Now Im thinking.

Maybe the cutting beam is affected by the directed energy distribution manifold (beam console). Then you can min-max an all energy build with in the front dual beam banks with BO or target shields and in the back 3 to 4 cutting beams. Would be good on escorts also, since they can keep the front arc.

Last edited by rudiefix1; 12-05-2012 at 04:46 AM.
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# 13
12-05-2012, 04:46 AM
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Only ONE per ship (there has been confusion about this in other threads)
Are you sure? (like tried it yourself?)
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# 14
12-05-2012, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rudiefix1 View Post
Are you sure? (like tried it yourself?)
Yes.
(No but here are some reasons to believe me.)
1) it is a set item and all set items are unique as in one per
2)It is also a unique weapon ans all the current unique weapons are also one per (waqy/missles/quad cannon
3) there are other threads where people have stated they bought 2 and can only equip one.
Actualy reading things pefore posting will make you look smarter than yelling loudly. Reading comprehension is aparently a lost art.

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