Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 71
12-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Whats the point of this thread again?
Somebody gave you a lot of horrible toys. Most people agree on that some of those toys are over the top and kill peoples fun in the game when used. Everybody knows that, whether he agrees or not.
If you decide to use those toys whatsoever, deal with the response you get and the reputation you build up. Don't come here crying about people talking bad about you and your buddies. You know it kills peoples fun but you still you use it. You're a b?tch. You get called names. Suck it up or play clean.
Don't make craptic responsible for it. We all know they sh?t on pvp. Most people manage to not use the stuff. Why can't you? And it's totally not about drawing a certain line. If it were so hard to define that line, it wouldn't be the same fleets getting called out by everyone.
Lt. Commander
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# 72 Whoops!
12-07-2012, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by v1permist View Post
lol jorf

he was never in QEW
Sorry about that Vipermist. I couldn't remember your name. I remember you from when I popped over there though. You guys helped me alot. Your style was different than TSI's but I saw exactly what you were doing. I feel both camps have valid approaches to pvp and in fact are applicable depending on who is playing on the team. Good to hear from you bud!

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 73 Slow it down
12-07-2012, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by raphezir1pw0 View Post
Whats the point of this thread again?
Somebody gave you a lot of horrible toys. Most people agree on that some of those toys are over the top and kill peoples fun in the game when used. Everybody knows that, whether he agrees or not.
If you decide to use those toys whatsoever, deal with the response you get and the reputation you build up. Don't come here crying about people talking bad about you and your buddies. You know it kills peoples fun but you still you use it. You're a b?tch. You get called names. Suck it up or play clean.
Don't make craptic responsible for it. We all know they sh?t on pvp. Most people manage to not use the stuff. Why can't you? And it's totally not about drawing a certain line. If it were so hard to define that line, it wouldn't be the same fleets getting called out by everyone.
It's interesting. There always has to be someone who wants to attack here on the forums. It's actually kind of entertaining seeing as I'm not attacking anyone except Broken for deliberately doing it and dragging it out for a very excessive period of time now. You make it sound like Nova Core has single handedly ruined pvp. Please. You want to slam S.O.B.? You want to slam Nova Core? I'm here saying we are putting our best foot forward and here you are wallowing in whats happened in the past. You want to bring up TSI too maybe? How about we go back to them for using what was broken 3 seasons ago.

Its obvious you think you are special. You must be the only person in game who didn't use Faw, or viral subnucleonic beam, or brace for impact doffs. Your animosity is directed to me. I don't spam consoles. I don't have trics. And the players who actually know me know my words to be true. But I don't have to prove anything to you. If you could read you would know what the point of this thread was. I will continue to answer questions in this thread and become more active on these forums again. And I will post productive responses while at the same time continuing to deflect unproductive replies like the one you've happily submitted here.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 74 Challenge accepted
12-07-2012, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by polie05 View Post
lol ok bring it tiny dancer. you and all of nova suck chefs chocolate salty balls. Without your spam, you worst than a pve'er lol

I have yet to see a nova guy not use p2w or spam. Even still I shred your ships made of glass. Thats coming from me Polie, and I am not nearly the player as Broken, Rand, and Yoda. If you want to puff up your chest and measure your epeen thats fine, but be ready to get knocked off your high horse. Hell I am tempted to setup a pvp match with Risa running shuttles just to smoke you. (again) lol


/out and back to Eve
Fantastic. It is obvious you have some animosity toward my fleet. I'm not sure why your animosity though is directed at me. It's obvious you don't know me. Whatever you didn't like about my fleet before has nothing to do with the publicly stated efforts by me now to change the light with which my fleet is looked upon. My business with Broken is not your concern. I've been threatened and ridiculed by him personally and for that the business I have with him is personal and my own. As far as your challenge goes its accepted. I'll happily suck chef's chocolate salty balls with whipped cream on top if you can beat a 5 man Nova Core team in shuttles. I look forward to meeting Risa Squadron in the queues.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 75
12-07-2012, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tripwire690 View Post
Fantastic. It is obvious you have some animosity toward my fleet. I'm not sure why your animosity though is directed at me. It's obvious you don't know me. Whatever you didn't like about my fleet before has nothing to do with the publicly stated efforts by me now to change the light with which my fleet is looked upon. My business with Broken is not your concern. I've been threatened and ridiculed by him personally and for that the business I have with him is personal and my own. As far as your challenge goes its accepted. I'll happily suck chef's chocolate salty balls with whipped cream on top if you can beat a 5 man Nova Core team in shuttles. I look forward to meeting Risa Squadron in the queues.
lol really i have? i never even metion you till you called me out on fourms yet you refuse to back it up. you also choise not even even touch the subject how my fleet was treated in your house. but yeah risa did have 3 shuttles and 2 decated heals and we lol won a match against a full nova core premade
Commander
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# 76
12-07-2012, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tripwire690 View Post
Fantastic. It is obvious you have some animosity toward my fleet. I'm not sure why your animosity though is directed at me. It's obvious you don't know me. Whatever you didn't like about my fleet before has nothing to do with the publicly stated efforts by me now to change the light with which my fleet is looked upon. My business with Broken is not your concern. I've been threatened and ridiculed by him personally and for that the business I have with him is personal and my own. As far as your challenge goes its accepted. I'll happily suck chef's chocolate salty balls with whipped cream on top if you can beat a 5 man Nova Core team in shuttles. I look forward to meeting Risa Squadron in the queues.
Its been done before. We have taken nova several times in the past w/o being sire spamsalot. And your bad attributed is of my concern since he is my fleet mate. An attack on one if an attack on all.

I just think its hilarious how you all think your some sort of bad ass and you can't even beat us with your spam. Sure it's a PIA, but pure and absolute skill out beats pure noob p2w garbage.

Hell last time I beat down Nova I turned on my auto macro's and just used the mouse to pilot. Not timing anything and just auto firing everything, and yes yall still went down like Broken on a knish. nom nom nom
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# 77
12-07-2012, 02:13 AM
Why so much bad ju-ju? I've been watching this thread unfold and its (no offence intended) but it seems like an Ego contest.

To Quote Horizon when he flamed at me sometime ago when I posted about pre-made teams
"you're not the kirksauce"

I'm most definately not this kirksauce, I don't want to be either, PvP is all well and good when there is a good competitive atmosphere, but being all un-sporting and being all flame and blame isn't getting anyone anywhere but a trip to sulk land.

I'm aware of almost every fleet mentioned, I have respect for alot of you and your fleets, although I wouldn't expect any of you to actually be aware of me, I don't exactly PvP to often anymore or even telegraph that I'm a PvP'er although I really enjoy it.

Also I like to generally just 1v1 these days, I have a good build for that, I don't stick to specific builds.
I wouldn't say that I'd win against some of the more experienced PvP'ers but I would do my best and still have the sportsmanship to actually not give two hoots about a complete roll over anymore, its going to happen.

I've also learned that it doesn't really matter what we really think about spam or pay to win consoles, the players in the minority of not being active in the forums, or not in a fleet that has any players aware of pay 2 win consoles being an issue for PvP'ers.

my issue is no matter what we do we're still going to get new players who are going to use them, the repuation system has single handedly given the player who was here before season 7, the advantage of better equipment, we should atleast take that into consideration when we start seeing the new players who start to PvP using less than effective equipment, and having pay to win consoles, that for the most part is the only advantage they have... would we like to be stripped of our advantages? probably not.

I'm in the minority but I do see players who clearly abuse the system because of Pay To Win consoles, those who like to logout just before death for instance, then complain "I couldn't move all that pay to win spam I aint dying from that crap"

I fight fair, I do not use pay to win consoles, I don't put money toward getting them, I don't open boxes. the only thing I have that is considered "pay to win" is the Red Matter Capacitor and I got that from my Collectors Edition

RachelJ88
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# 78
12-07-2012, 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rachelj88 View Post
Why so much bad ju-ju? I've been watching this thread unfold and its (no offence intended) but it seems like an Ego contest.

To Quote Horizon when he flamed at me sometime ago when I posted about pre-made teams
"you're not the kirksauce"

I'm most definately not this kirksauce, I don't want to be either, PvP is all well and good when there is a good competitive atmosphere, but being all un-sporting and being all flame and blame isn't getting anyone anywhere but a trip to sulk land.

[...]

I've also learned that it doesn't really matter what we really think about spam or pay to win consoles, the players in the minority of not being active in the forums, or not in a fleet that has any players aware of pay 2 win consoles being an issue for PvP'ers.

[...]

my issue is no matter what we do we're still going to get new players who are going to use them, the repuation system has single handedly given the player who was here before season 7, the advantage of better equipment, we should atleast take that into consideration when we start seeing the new players who start to PvP using less than effective equipment, and having pay to win consoles, that for the most part is the only advantage they have... would we like to be stripped of our advantages? probably not.
Less silverback-style thumping of chests, more of this.

Awareness of multiple perspectives, some tolerance for people less in the loop and a friendly attitude towards people using things you think are diabolical would probably make PvP a more welcoming experience for new players. Once they decide to stay and repeatedly hear reasonable arguments not to use such-and-such skill/console/tactic they might very well refrain from using these. Yelling and flaming at new, unaware players, on the other hand, may well make their forays into PvP very brief ones indeed.
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# 79
12-07-2012, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rachelj88 View Post

my issue is no matter what we do we're still going to get new players who are going to use them, the repuation system has single handedly given the player who was here before season 7, the advantage of better equipment, we should atleast take that into consideration when we start seeing the new players who start to PvP using less than effective equipment, and having pay to win consoles, that for the most part is the only advantage they have... would we like to be stripped of our advantages? probably not.

I'm in the minority but I do see players who clearly abuse the system because of Pay To Win consoles, those who like to logout just before death for instance, then complain "I couldn't move all that pay to win spam I aint dying from that crap"

RachelJ88
pre-season 7 characters do have a minor disadvantage, but the fleet shields and regular MK XII VR deflectors/engines can be effective and viable in PVP. I will say, on my after-s7 sci I do miss the 2x borg. The hull proc is great. However, the borg deflector doesn't fit my needs so I probably wouldn't use the borg stuff anyway. Although a MK XII MACO would be great!

I've been noticing a lot of the same tactics in PVP premades lately. Point and case, while I find some of the tactics in poor taste, some I would refuse to use in a team, some I will and that is adapting. Be that as it may, if I don't have anything nice to say, I don't say nothing! I also try and extend that philosophy to my teammates.

It would be nice if PWE/Crypic would fix the issue with mines. IE, if one critz they all crit. I also have a suspicion that the same may be true for cannon swings. Need to start doing some logs/tests though. I noticed a 17k cannon critz last night, followed by a couple more instantly killing a enemy. Granted it a decloak alpha, but that followed by at least 1 other crit >10k seems a bit hax.
-X-/Pandas - Pheo
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# 80 Indeed you have.
12-07-2012, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by broken1981 View Post
lol really i have? i never even metion you till you called me out on fourms yet you refuse to back it up. you also choise not even even touch the subject how my fleet was treated in your house. but yeah risa did have 3 shuttles and 2 decated heals and we lol won a match against a full nova core premade
You keep bringing up how your fleet was treated in my house. I have been good friends with Balla and Tosk for a long time. Since before I even knew who you were. I respect Risa Squadron and have always respected them. But you are disrespectful. Whatever happened with you in "my house" I was not there. So why don't you tell me what happened. Who is it exactly in my house that treated you so wrong? As for me you have talked **** about me the same as Talon Jones. It's funny because I've never given Talon Jones any reason to **** talk me personally. But not only has he but he continues to **** talk my fleet. Of course the only thing he succeeds at is wins by Logout. So maybe I shouldn't be suprised.

You've also made it personal with your ridiculous youtube video. "Is a Tuffli Freighter better than Nova Core". And you question why I call you out? Why don't you link the video here so people can see. I say I can kill you because I have. And I didn't have help. Other times I did. That's how pvp works. It's fact. Not chest thumping. I am publicly stating my capability against you while at the same time acknowledging your skill as my opponent. Which is showing you far more respect than you care to show me or anyone else you don't agree with. What have you contributed to this forum post except malicious response after response. You aren't constructive about anything on this forum or in the organizedpvp channel. I'll be happy to address the issue if something serious happened to you or your players while in our teamspeak. But you need to understand whatever happened did not happen by me to you or your fleet. I wasn't in game at the time and have no clue to what you are talking about.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.

Last edited by tripwire690; 12-07-2012 at 03:22 AM.
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