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# 91
12-05-2012, 02:25 PM
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What.. are you talking about?
You ignored his post entirely to focus on 'Projection 101'. And also, sorta how you've ignored half of my posts here on this thread, that were aimed at you

Not really significant by itself, more an interesting observation.
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# 92
12-05-2012, 02:29 PM
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You ignored his post entirely to focus on 'Projection 101'. And also, sorta how you've ignored half of my posts here on this thread

Not really significant by itself, but an interesting observation.
I summed his thread up, simple as that, and the sum was accurate. I placed grey font color to add more effect to the post, if you didn't notice that it was grey ;3 there is a reason for it hehe. Furthermore I don't want to place too much time replying to nonsense.

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# 93
12-05-2012, 02:31 PM
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I summed his thread up, simple as that, and the sum was accurate. I placed grey font color to add more effect to the post, if you didn't notice that it was grey ;3 there is a reason for it hehe. Furthermore I don't want to place too much time replying to nonsense.
Admirable on the nonsense aspect, I'll give you that, even if we never see eye-to-eye
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# 94
12-05-2012, 02:34 PM
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Then let us just leave it to time and pray that we don't have another repulser style death bomb. The ship stat/slot wise, no matter how you look at it, is unbalanced. I can't see how you can argue against that.
the 8 weapons is a bit silly, but the most that will do is add another turret with another 2% or 3% damage. the hull and shield mod might be slightly to high as well. but nothing about it says high tier tank, high tier healer, or high tier debuffer. its sort of a high tier damage dealer, if you dont count on target up time, which it will have very little of in a dog fight. also no 2 AtB capability, that what makes ships like this with a wide variety of station powers truly deadly, and it cant use that.
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# 95
12-05-2012, 02:36 PM
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the 8 weapons is a bit silly, but the most that will do is add another turret with another 2% or 3% damage. the hull and shield mod might be slightly to high as well. but nothing about it says high tier tank, high tier healer, or high tier debuffer. its sort of a high tier damage dealer, if you dont count on target up time, which it will have very little of in a dog fight. also no 2 AtB capability, that what makes ships like this with a wide variety of station powers truly deadly, and it cant use that.
I also have ways of fighting with escorts that would scare you, that don't require direct targetting.

Also, It isn't turrets I am worried about, it is mines ;3 Although you can do some pretty scary things with turrets, but when it comes to escorts + mines... arg. hehe, 3rd device slot ftw?

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# 96
12-05-2012, 02:40 PM
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I summed his thread up, simple as that, and the sum was accurate. I placed grey font color to add more effect to the post, if you didn't notice that it was grey ;3 there is a reason for it hehe. Furthermore I don't want to place too much time replying to nonsense.
Sorry but I think my post sums you up more accurately Mewi. You'd be happier in a community where everyone agrees with you. You seem to have a closed mind to other peoples opinions. Therefore I reckon you should make your way to the Collective and make yourself at home as soon as possible. For your own sanity's sake that is!

And as for...

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Furthermore I don't want to place too much time replying to nonsense.
Well... I don't want to place too much time replying to you seriously (hence why most of my posts to you contain humor/nonsense)... Because I see most of what you have to say as complete nonsense and disrespect toward other peoples opinions!

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# 97
12-05-2012, 02:41 PM
I... don't quite know what to make of this thing.

There is already a vocal cross-section of the community that holds the cruiser as a second-tier class thanks to the growing tendency to favour DPS builds... The recent appearance of 'Destroyer' types certainly reinforced it, and now they've given us an... escort, with a cruiser's weapon layout, room for multiple hard-tanking powers, good turn rate, and DHCs.

I mean... this thing is truly fantastic, but I hope it's not going to set a precedent that could render every other ship in Tier 5 obsolete!
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# 98
12-05-2012, 02:43 PM
i hate to break it to you 'nanner nanner lol pvp sucks' pve'ers, but you are playing a game built for pvp with a bunch of pve stuck in it. the 3 ship types are obviously built to have strengths and weaknesses and meant to work together to combat each other. you all hate pvp because you wouldn't last 5 seconds against mewi or my self, you cant even use your ships to 10% of their potential. i honestly have no idea how you can stay interested in this game by just playing the pve, the npcs you face over and over are horrible, and have trained you to be horrible as well.

but do not fear, learning how to actually play to your ships potential is very easy, and pvp'ers would love to have you join our ranks, you just have to be willing to learn, and willing to listen. based on most of the attack comments to mewi though, i dout most of you are capable of that
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# 99
12-05-2012, 02:43 PM
When a five-year-old throws a tantrum, calling his teachers names and insinuating they eat boogers, how often does the teacher stop and say, "Yeah, this kid is right, I should stop eating boogers and act like less of a doodie-head"?

The answer is no, they don't. They either ignore the little brat or punish them somehow.

I've found that most of mewi's rants are akin to a five-year-old throwing a tantrum over something they don't like. Only, of course, mewi is far more eloquent, though equally as tactless.

First, this "they lied" line is largely false. Cryptic has lied about anything at all a grand total of twice, to my knowledge; once about STF dilithium at the start of S7 and once before STO even launched (lol Klingon faction and exploration). They have a pretty solid track record after that, if you have an iota of intelligence and can read the fine print. They take pains to make quite clear that plans change, and often. Ever since Dan came back they've made an effort not to set anything in stone (STF dil being the only major slip). Even before that, in the days of the Engineering Reports, we were told point blank that nearly everything listed on those was subject to change as plans shifted.

Nearly nothing I've ever seen touted as lies on this forum has been anything more dastardly and underhanded than development priorities changing a bit. It takes a special kind of cynic to twist that into something evil.

The greed part is also pretty funny, if slightly closer to the truth than "they lie". They have to make money somehow, so as in-your-face as lockboxes are, they are a necessary evil, greedy by nature but needed to keep the game afloat. But where else is this greed surfacing? Dil costs for fleets and Rep? lol no, you can get all that for free. There's no greed where the choice is pay up or play some easy content to get what you want for free. The only other potential argument for greed lies in +1 and Fleet ships, but even that is mitigated by the fact that by way of the DilEx, you still don't have to pay unless you want to. The system cuts both ways in a pretty balanced manner that, incidentally, is swinging wildly in favor of people who'd rather grind dil than drop cash.

*takes a deep breath*

Here's a list of stupid things I think Cryptic's done to balance the above:
  • Selling +1 ships to start with was stupid.
  • Pulling Dil from STF's at S7's launch was monumentally stupid.
  • Basing Mk XII set gear acquisition on luck was stupid.
  • Pulling the 500 marks reward from the 500-day vet reward with no immediately clear equivalent replacing it was stupid.
  • The repeated nerfs to Science is stupid.
  • The Borg insta-kill invisible death balls are stupid.
  • Nerfing the Borg set the way they did was stupid.
  • And most importantly, not having a Ripped TOS shirt available at least in the C-Store by now is stupid.
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# 100
12-05-2012, 02:44 PM
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Well... I don't want to place too much time replying to you seriously (hence why most of my posts contain humor/nonsense... Because I see most of what you have to say as complete nonsense and disrespect toward other peoples opinions!
Do you mean to tell me, you made serious attempts in the past?

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When a five-year-old throws a tantrum, calling his teachers names and insinuating they eat boogers, how often does the teacher stop and say, "Yeah, this kid is right, I should stop eating boogers and act like less of a doodie-head"?

The answer is no, they don't. They either ignore the little brat or punish them somehow.
Ironically, most of your "cryptics bad ideas" are things I have complained about in the past. However the Borg Set nerf, was required for improved PvP balance, although wasn't done to the effect I was hoping for when I started arguing for a nerf on the set, my primary concern was the Hull proc, they instead went after the shield proc. The more borg set dies, the better it will be for all of us, just means more variety in the game~

Not that I really care to respond to your post, but I am waiting for a timer in another game, so why not? Also being the Eloquent 5 year old that I am, I'd recommend you become a PvP regular, or a KDF player, and you'll see nothing but lies, every month.

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