Lieutenant
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# 1 Fix Gravity Well.
12-17-2012, 12:13 AM
In pvp gravity well is completely useless. Even if you have 4 purple MKxii consoles an aftershock doff and deflector dish doffs people consistently just fly out of it like its nothing.

Some serious thought needs to be given to whether it is operating as intended vs the resists of players at lvl 50.
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# 2
12-17-2012, 12:14 AM
I been in some pretty nasty gravwells! omega is about the only thing that can get you out.
Lieutenant
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# 3
12-17-2012, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by omgrandalthor View Post
I been in some pretty nasty gravwells! omega is about the only thing that can get you out.
You're doing it wrong then. Most people just need evasive maneuvers. No need to adjust energy to engines or pop a battery.

The only people I've seen get stuck in a gravity well and die honestly would have died whether the gravity well was there or not.

If I have to tractor you to try and keep you in the gravity well theres a problem

It doesn't deal much damage, and it doesn't hold people well. Broken skill is broken.
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# 4
12-17-2012, 12:36 AM
I think you are doing it wrong.
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# 5
12-17-2012, 12:42 AM
Hmm not sure GW is supposed to be killing anyone on its own.... is it ?

GW works just fine... Yes every escort in the game right now runs 1 omega with ether doffs or 2 copies, for max uptime... yes they ignore gravity wells.

I even run Aux to Damp on my escorts... so yes GW very rarely every effects me.

However it reduces spam like a mofo.... its a great SUPPORT skill .... which is sort of what you should be doing in a sci ship. Its the anti tric mine skills. lol
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Last edited by antoniosalieri; 12-17-2012 at 12:45 AM.
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# 6
12-17-2012, 12:53 AM
Works great against pets, oh holy yes it does.
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# 7
12-17-2012, 01:44 AM
Being as ESCORTS not CARRIERS are public enemy number 1 it is an issue.

Anyone with BFAW, CSV or torpedo spread can kill pets. Big whoop de doo.

What can a sci do to an escort? As it is now energy drain is our only good offensive skill against escorts (or any other decent build), and this is a problem.

Gravity well is just a good example. It can be ignored with impunity, even if fully specced in the skill with supporting doffs and a full load of consoles. A tac does not have to invest nearly as much to get results much, much, much more substantial.

This concept that sci is there to just heal and debuff for escorts is retarded.

Escorts have too much dps too many hard counters to sci skills and too much resist to them.



Whats the counter or resist to Alpha strike + bo3 + crf3?

Last edited by boootz; 12-17-2012 at 01:51 AM.
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# 8
12-17-2012, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by boootz View Post
Being as ESCORTS not CARRIERS are public enemy number 1 it is an issue.

Anyone with BFAW, CSV or torpedo spread can kill pets. Big whoop de doo.

What can a sci do to an escort? As it is now energy drain is our only good offensive skill against escorts (or any other decent build), and this is a problem.


This concept that sci is there to just heal and debuff for escorts is retarded.
I good sir am 3 year science vet.

If you only think energy drain is the solution to escorts then i must good sir, you're doing it wrong.
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# 9
12-17-2012, 01:55 AM
Orly. Then why don't you enlighten me, on how you slay veteran pvp escorts in your sci ship 1v1 oh veteran of 3 years.

Because unless they are noobs it doesn't happen.

Last edited by boootz; 12-17-2012 at 01:57 AM.
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# 10
12-17-2012, 03:04 AM
I would be interested in hearing what some do with their grav wells. Overall I'm pleased with them in PVP, but the hold seems to max at a certain point. With that, most escorts are able
to fly right out of it. That said, sometimes they pull the whole group and it's pretty freaking funny. Perhaps it's the points in resist skills and/or the engine may have something to do with that. The fleet engine seems to have the speed to pull right out and I'm guessing the omega energy wake may be some of the reason OP is complaining.

There are other means to hold a enemy, so sometimes hax0r it and stack a few slows/holds on them in the grav well. Maybe add some AOE/dots?? profit?
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