Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 511
12-24-2012, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
They don't

A group of speculators (numbering in the dozens not the thousands) are scamming the hell out of the exchange

This is why it needs to be FIXED
iron clad and locked down

OR auto convert any stockpile of Dilith over 1 million into zen at the going rate and any stockpile of Zen over 20,000 into dilith at the going rate


OR allow a person to EITHER buy or sell zen in any 48 hour period

or both such options

or perhaps a 20% tax on profits
And penalize people like me, who takes this opportunity to buy zen cheaper, and unlock costumes/various item ?
What's the point of a free zen/dil market, if it's not free ?

Some people will always find a way to scam something. They represent a minority, and penalizing the whole community because of them is bad. Especially when they won't be penalized that much.

They already broke the DOFF system, and it was a minigame I liked to do. Now, I don't do it anymore, because of the dil cost. They nerfed the foundry mission reward, it was the foundry author and player that was penalized for a while. Some of them are still penalized.

Scammer already found another efficient way to do their business.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,593
# 512
12-24-2012, 03:52 AM
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nd penalize people like me, who takes this opportunity to buy zen cheaper, and unlock costumes/various item ?
What's the point of a free zen/dil market, if it's not free ?
there isn't one

it should be a fixed market
your 100 dilith should always be worth the same 1 zen (or whatever)
it should be immutable
Fixed and not player dependant

Quote:
Some people will always find a way to scam something. They represent a minority, and penalizing the whole community because of them is bad. Especially when they won't be penalized that much.
sadly hunting them down and ripping out their spleens is not an option
Nor can we jail them for 30 years


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They already broke the DOFF system, and it was a minigame I liked to do. Now, I don't do it anymore, because of the dil cost. They nerfed the foundry mission reward, it was the foundry author and player that was penalized for a while. Some of them are still penalized.
there should be no profit in running a mission

Quote:
Scammer already found another efficient way to do their business.
eventually we will find away to deal with them
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 891
# 513
12-24-2012, 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Myth

the "purpose" currently seems to be to make a profit for the Dilith mafia
the speculators

Forget expensive (I could right now buy 10,000 zen if I wanted to)
but the point is its no longer worth it

dilith is not worth the price

and it won't be until the speculators are shut down
I hear the moon landing was faked too.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,593
# 514
12-24-2012, 06:33 AM
You hear incorrectly

The Russians landed on the moon some years back and were monitored from Athens
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by sparhawk View Post
It's actually bottomed out over there before eh? Interesting and rather horrendous at the same time.
Like me, many I know seek other means to dispose of money
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 906
# 516
12-24-2012, 09:37 AM
Listen Sollvax, you just need to accept that pretty much nobody wants the game to implement your crazy suggestions regarding the Exchange.

Free market, player set pricing. So what if there are "speculators"? Power to them!
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 128
# 517
12-24-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sollvax View Post
Taxes exist to support government (in this case Developers)

imagine if every time someone bought zen with dilith a 5th of the zen vanished
and every time someone bought the dilith a 5th vanished

the Tax then goes to pay for CONTENT

Actually Id like to see all speculation STOP
the main exchange be capped at +/- 10% of base price
and a limit on the amount of ZEN an account can have
Wow..

Where do you think zen comes from?

New zen only comes from people buying it directly with money or the monthly stipend which was paid for either as a lifetime or monthly sub.

They're supposed to be making content with that money.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,593
# 518
12-24-2012, 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by walshicus View Post
Listen Sollvax, you just need to accept that pretty much nobody wants the game to implement your crazy suggestions regarding the Exchange.

Free market, player set pricing. So what if there are "speculators"? Power to them!
So speculators get to own your house??

Free markets lead to ponzi schemes , maddoff moments and sub prime mortgages

you know all the weaknesses of a social capitalist system
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,211
# 519
12-24-2012, 10:56 AM
It won't get much lower.


If it did then Zen sales would drop, if Zen sales drop then revenue reduces.



I'd expect an upswing in the Dilithium exchange by second week of January, latest.
Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 782
# 520
12-24-2012, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by recksracer View Post
Wow..

Where do you think zen comes from?

New zen only comes from people buying it directly with money or the monthly stipend which was paid for either as a lifetime or monthly sub.

They're supposed to be making content with that money.
Solid point. And very importantly as well think about the impact to new players.

Sure you long-time vets have more demand for dilithium because you've unlocked everything you want with zen so the current exchange rate makes it hard to get dilithium in large quantities. But new players like me don't have much need for the dilithium gear yet and there's a LOT of stuff we want to unlock with zen. For us the current exchange rate is awesome.
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