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Today I was in CSE in my scimitar happily going around faw spamming everything then all of a sudden KABLAM im dead... I turned to the combat tab and i saw this:

[Combat (Self)] Borg Raptor deals 34976 (101368) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo - Heavy II.

That's over a 100k hit!

Now call me crazy but most PvP are hard pressed to do that much let alone the borg... and with THY2 only not even 3. Now while i did feel the borg were a little under powered this seems a bit extreme. I died 3 or 4 more times that match from similar hits, some nearing the 200k range. Now there are definitely some players that could survive that... a recluse in a full tank build with RSP perhaps but for most nah that's a bit ridiculous. If this were to hit the Kang, which ive seen them do before, that's really just an immediate opt failed, a few more sorry game over. Please fix!
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# 2
06-25-2014, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by maxprange View Post
Today I was in CSE in my scimitar happily going around faw spamming everything then all of a sudden KABLAM im dead... I turned to the combat tab and i saw this:

[Combat (Self)] Borg Raptor deals 34976 (101368) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo - Heavy II.

That's over a 100k hit!

Now call me crazy but most PvP are hard pressed to do that much let alone the borg... and with THY2 only not even 3. Now while i did feel the borg were a little under powered this seems a bit extreme. I died 3 or 4 more times that match from similar hits, some nearing the 200k range. Now there are definitely some players that could survive that... a recluse in a full tank build with RSP perhaps but for most nah that's a bit ridiculous. If this were to hit the Kang, which ive seen them do before, that's really just an immediate opt failed, a few more sorry game over. Please fix!
I have always had the Borg on Cure do a butt load of spike, I have been killed several times by a single torp so I know what you are talking about.

The same can be said about the Undine on Vicious Cycle. They will spike 40-50K literally one after another, way to fast to recover. 'Ive had two or three 40-50K+ hits at the same time killing me dozens of times now.
I use to do 100K DPS, but then I took an arrow to the knee.


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# 3
06-25-2014, 02:26 AM
mmh my Recluse doesnt get one-hitted. But I use AuxSif, greatly enhancing my resistencies and have very high shield resistencies. And if I am not sure, then of course Brace for impact is a good choice, or destroying the HY before it hits. Its been ages since the last one-hit on each of my ships. Only exception are TacCubes, but well, they should be able to do something like this, they are already laughable as it is. And as I said: HYs are destroyable.

Its pretty common to use HYs from Raptors and Cubes to destroy them, so it could also be that I am adapted to them^^
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# 4
06-25-2014, 02:41 AM
a player can do that much dmg on crit with the rommy red torp of death if its speced for nothing but plasma torp (fleet consoles critS) dmg with the KHG 2 set torp bonus. add embassy consoles + plasma dmg. i did more in one Kase mission on transformer but ive stoped using it now n fly ar,kif
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# 5
06-25-2014, 03:05 AM
You are not supposed to get hit by Heavy Plazzes, those things are slow-moving and targetable. It's the non-heavy unavoidable invisiplazzes that you should be worrying about.
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# 6
06-25-2014, 03:11 AM
Ah ... Welcome to the Clan ... The "Borg Super Torpedo of Death" and it's highly controversial and still un-acknowledged partner the "Borg Super Stealth Torpedo of DOOM".

The standard version does hit hard, but if you're careful, it's survivable ... however ...

The BSSTD (TM) is well known for insta killing your ship, even if you have full Hull and Shields and as the name suggests it's completely invisible, and what's more seems to have an almost unlimited range.

I'm also still convinced that Cryptic added a +Threat value of about +20000000000 to Scimi's, in order to assuage all the Scimi haters and players crying for the Scimi to be nerfed.

Because you pretty much can't take one into an ESTF without instantly drawing all aggro from every enemy ship, regardless of how much damage they or you are doing, and then being hit by one of the above.
Please ... Make it so ...!
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# 7
06-25-2014, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bendalek View Post
Ah ... Welcome to the Clan ... The "Borg Super Torpedo of Death" and it's highly controversial and still un-acknowledged partner the "Borg Super Stealth Torpedo of DOOM".

The standard version does hit hard, but if you're careful, it's survivable ... however ...

The BSSTD (TM) is well known for insta killing your ship, even if you have full Hull and Shields and as the name suggests it's completely invisible, and what's more seems to have an almost unlimited range.

I'm also still convinced that Cryptic added a +Threat value of about +20000000000 to Scimi's, in order to assuage all the Scimi haters and players crying for the Scimi to be nerfed.

Because you pretty much can't take one into an ESTF without instantly drawing all aggro from every enemy ship, regardless of how much damage they or you are doing, and then being hit by one of the above.
1st think aggro broken more then once raptors cubes n neghs have made a bee line for me even when im on opsit side of the map.
2nd hate the invisable torps my fleet excel has 57k hull 47% in both risists n 77shield power bounus 45 def n it still kills me when im 12k away
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# 8
06-25-2014, 03:44 AM
Don't really see a problem here. I used to be killed easily too. Then I started using an exploration cruiser, and it stopped. The Borg and their weapons are fine the way they are. What you need is to have someone watching your back and taking out these torps before they hit you. Unfortunately, this game does run smoother with teamwork, and even someone like me who actively avoids teams whenever possible has to admit that if you want to do a lot of damage, you have to give up tankiness and rely on support from others. One thing I did learn is that if you keep your target at about 8 distance, you can spot and destroy the HY torps before they can harm you. I regularly use this tactic against the giant Borg unimatrices and their plasma energy balls.
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# 9
06-25-2014, 04:22 AM
I spam FAW. cuts down on those, but yeah they do an awful lot of damage
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# 10
06-25-2014, 04:36 AM
I did two sector alerts this morning and on the second one the unimatrix was spamming invisitorps all over the place.
I lost track of how many times my poor old Vesta got vaped by them. I can handle the slow plasma torps, just shoot them down or get them to hit their own ships. But invisitorps are impossible to avoid.

I swear I was the only one being targeted by the borg in that map. Nobody else seemed to be taking half as much agro.

Which leads me to believe that argo is preety broken in this game. I mean obviously if you're doing all the damage then you'll get lots of agro but how can a Vesta be more of a threat than a load of escorts or FAW boats?!?
I'm thinking sci tricks are causing way more agro than they really should.
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