Now that they keep introducing more cruiser/escort hybrids, they need to consider revamping the turn rates for the existing cruisers. The Breen Chel Gret Cruiser is larger than the Excelsior and as wide as a Galaxy, yet they are giving it the base turn rate of a Chimira? I'm not going to even touch on the other Uberness of the ship, because that's a different subject. When it's base turn rate is 13, after adding player's skill tree, other consoles, and special engines, the ship will be just as fast and manuverable as a defiant. With the Galaxy, Odyssey, Catian Carrier, and Vo'Quv turning at rate of 6, it makes alot of the new cruisers look like they are on a sugar high. A turn rate of 8 at the least would be helpful in making these slow behemoth ships more competitive in PVP and n PVE.

There is no need for ANY changes to cruisers

But people will disagree with that

I agree with sollvax.

Cruisers are meant to be played broadsiding, and that's what they do best. No turning is necessary.

And this is coming from a tac in a cannon Fleet Excelsior. Would a better turn rate help me out, sure, but having something with 60K hull flying around like an escort would be a lot to ask for.

Besides, I have the Breen ship. I don't find it to be all that uber. Anything that can mount DHC's needs to have a slightly better turn rate. Otherwise it's useless.

Agreed. Now the more massive ones, like the flagships I could understand if they don't change. But a lot of the others, could use an adjustment, same goes for a slower sci ship, like the Nebula.

If you guys don't think the cruisers should get a bump from a 6 turn rate to an 8 then , what do you think will happen when you fight against the new Chal Grett Cruiser with its 13 point base turn rate, Commander and LT Commander Tac BOFF slots, and console slots of an escort? Your broadsiding won't do crap to a ship like that.

If you fly assualt cruisers or excelsior class, they don't come with the over slow 6 point turn rate. The Excelsior comes with an 8 point turn rate so if you flying that, you can't complain. Everybody don't want to fly the same type of ship just to get a reasonable turn rate. Now there are more super ships comming out, there needs to be a balance to that or the fabric of tha game will fall apart. If the ship has a turn rate of 6 in needs an upgrade to be competetitive.

Well if anything that can mount DHC need a better turn rate, you dont mind that my galaxy x get a 0.5 increase turn rate don't you?
Dont worry 6.5 turn rate wont make me turn like an escort if that what frighten you.

And I'll say the same thing that I likely say to any feddie wanting the equivalent of a battlecruiser: USE A KDF TOON!!! Stop suggesting that you be given cruiser traits that are more in line with the KDF, and just effing use a KDF toon. Buy a Vor'cha, and maneuver your heart out. Or fly a gimped Qin raptor (which Cryptic refuses to fix) that flies like a cruiser.

Enough with these god@mn threads asking for buffed cruiser turnrates.

The Breen ship is non canon
so we won't be fighting it

were it required however

evasive works wonders
and my "broadside" can strip a cubes shields so I think it can handle a freezer

Um it is canon, but the manner in which KDF and Starfleet captains can command it would be. Unless you Arr Pee you are a pirate, mercenary, or a klingon who like to command CAPTURED ships!

Breen ship was in DS-9. It's Canon.


To the KDF captain complaining about feds asking for upgrades to cruisers.

Sounds like you do not want the feds to have anything that will end the KDF dominance of pvp.