Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 316
# 21
12-15-2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronh42 View Post
This is extremely disappointing for me.

I was really looking forward to the andorian ship. It sounds like he made the announcement in error, I can understand that. Still doesn't make me any happier about it not coming out next month.
Remember he also said something along the lines of: "Season 8 will be all about the KDF!" to "We're still trying to get permission to do something with the KDF" in the space of about two weeks.

So going from Januray to first half of 2013 isn't that big a deal.

However on the subject of the andorian ship: About bloody time! When I saw the Andorian ship appear on the Engineering report I was intrested, then it moved up one step so I started leveling a Andorian captain, with a 100% Andorian crew. Even managed to knock together a sort of Andorian uniform from availible parts.

And that brings us to three years later...
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,489
# 22
12-15-2012, 08:58 AM
Changing the weapons from front/back to left/right is a very significant thing. I'm not sure people really appreciate this. It all boils down to the fact that in order to use front weapons you must face your target, and if you're facing your target, then you are either closing range at high speed, reversing slowly, or being stationary (being stationary is bad).

Putting weapons on the SIDE of the ship is what enables you to fly at high speed while firing on a target and not getting any closer to it. It combines offense and defense. The trouble with doing this using traditional beam arrays is that beam arrays are ridiculously inefficient with their power usage. Putting side weapons on the ship enables the use of far more efficient dual beam arrays, as well as side-firing torpedoes to capitalize on shield holes that you open up.

On the whole I would expect a broadside battlecruiser to be an adept of "fire and maneuver", chugging along at high speed while firing on targets to the left and right simultaneously and to equal effect. I'm very excited to explore the tactical ramifications of such a ship.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 23
12-15-2012, 09:14 AM
In my opinion the delay of the Andorian ship is no real surprise. I saw this coming when there was word it was going to be released in January.

The big problem here is not Cryptic, yes they had issues but if you look at it, the biggest problems started when Perfect World took over. We lost a large player base when Cryptic got bought and it was for the reasons we see today. Chinese overlords going for immediate results, aka lockboxes. Don't be surprised if Perfect World does release the Andorian ship to lock boxes.
Why would they do this? Aside from not caring about players it would get them the most money. The Andorian ship is popular, and would benefit the most from a lockbox special. The Vulcan ship was released before the PWE took over, and the caitian carrier is not popular enough to warrant a lockbox.
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As for the Andorian ship itself, I don't think it should be an Escort as much as a battle cruiser, aka a combat focused cruiser so it does not specialize in tanking, but not as good in combat as a defiant is. This would make it a little more true to the ship's design.

And the Ambassador class... you wait, they're looking for a lockbox for that one too.
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# 24
12-15-2012, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kelorel View Post
In my opinion the delay of the Andorian ship is no real surprise. I saw this coming when there was word it was going to be released in January.

The big problem here is not Cryptic, yes they had issues but if you look at it, the biggest problems started when Perfect World took over. We lost a large player base when Cryptic got bought and it was for the reasons we see today. Chinese overlords going for immediate results, aka lockboxes. Don't be surprised if Perfect World does release the Andorian ship to lock boxes.
Why would they do this? Aside from not caring about players it would get them the most money. The Andorian ship is popular, and would benefit the most from a lockbox special. The Vulcan ship was released before the PWE took over, and the caitian carrier is not popular enough to warrant a lockbox.
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As for the Andorian ship itself, I don't think it should be an Escort as much as a battle cruiser, aka a combat focused cruiser so it does not specialize in tanking, but not as good in combat as a defiant is. This would make it a little more true to the ship's design.

And the Ambassador class... you wait, they're looking for a lockbox for that one too.
Nonsense. FEDERATION SHIPS DO NOT GO IN LOCKBOXES! Do you not listen? Or pay any attention at all?

They have explicitly stated that we will have a new lock box ship AND the Andorian Escort.

By your same (stupid) reasoning, the Vesta would also have been in a lockbox - given that it has been the most anticipated ship in this game for quite some time, do you remember how many you saw flying around on launch day? They were absolutely everywhere.

We get it, you don't like PWE - doesn't mean you have to spout nonsense at the rest of us.
Commander
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# 25
12-15-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by olivia211 View Post
All I know is a male Andorian ship will be shorter than its female counterpart.
Ok, that made me laugh. Good reference.

All I know is that I've been waiting to see an Andorian ship for quite a while now. Hope it actually comes out soon. I still can't really picture a beam boat as fitting, though.

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Originally Posted by brigadooom View Post
The andorian ship should have all tactical bridge stations and consoles, and no other bridge stations or consoles of any other type
^Oh, and definitely THIS^
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 26
12-15-2012, 11:12 AM
Meh. Too many tactical ships. You got the temporal destroyer, the 1000-day destroyer, the Steamrunner, and now the Breen thingy. Science got the temporal science ship and the wildly anticipated Vesta. Cruisers got... ??

I would love to see something new and different like:

Turn rate = 7
Hull = 42K / Shields = *1.1 (fleet cruiser level)
4/4 weapons, broadside configuration
4 tac consoles, 4 eng, 2 science
LTC tactical
LTC engineer
LTC engineer
LT science
EN universal
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,628
# 27
12-15-2012, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenhammand View Post
Any sort of explanation about why it is suddenly a possible 6 months away from being finished would be nice. Just keep us in the loop a little bit cryptic. Some of us have literally been waiting years for this.
Fixing the mess of Season 7, also with the Anniversary coming in February they have to be ready for it instead of delaying it.

Whatever is planned for the 3rd Anniversary CANNOT be delayed, a C-Store ship can and perhaps because its getting a unique bridge it means until that gets into rotation it have to wait.

And the Andorian ship is a Escort.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 65
# 28
12-15-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Fixing the mess of Season 7, also with the Anniversary coming in February they have to be ready for it instead of delaying it.

Whatever is planned for the 3rd Anniversary CANNOT be delayed, a C-Store ship can and perhaps because its getting a unique bridge it means until that gets into rotation it have to wait.

And the Andorian ship is a Escort.
Except it's been 3 years.
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# 29
12-15-2012, 01:01 PM
As long as it looks something like this I'm happy.



http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Ando...ari_bridge.jpg

Now I'm going to ask cause well it's going to be asked anyway.

Vulcan and Atrox bridge will they ever make one now since the blue guys are getting one.

I always imagined the carrier having a huge CIC.

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Captain
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# 30
12-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by topset View Post
Nonsense. FEDERATION SHIPS DO NOT GO IN LOCKBOXES! Do you not listen? Or pay any attention at all?
The Wells class is a Federation ship and it is a lockbox ship so it should be Federation ships that belong in the early 25th Century do not go in lockboxes.
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