Starfleet Veteran
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Posts: 78
# 111
12-29-2012, 04:55 AM
It would take a lot to get me back into Cruisers, the Breen ship might just do it. So, along those lines lets think crazy (it's never going to happen anyway).

500 Crew
30,000 Hull
0.8 Shield Mod
10 Turn Rate
Impulse Modifier 0.2
Inertia rating 40/50
Device slots 4
10 Weapon Power & 10 Engine Power
4 Fore Weapons
4 Aft Weapons
Bridge Officer Layout.
Commander Tactical
Lieutenant Commander Science
Lieutenant Commander Engineer
Lieutenant Tactical
Lieutenant Science.
2 Engineering Console Slots
4 Science Console Slots
4 Tactical Console Slots

Bonus console - No weapon drain from BO & reduces FAW to a single target while reducing FAW damage by 20% (or something like that). It may be crazy, but it would be dam fun to fly.
Career Officer
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 246
# 112
12-29-2012, 05:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wunjee View Post
You know this game is as much Star Trek as Star Fleet Battles was, right?

You know, the Star Trek-based IP that wasn't even allowed to use the Star Trek name?

The IP that Starfleet Command was based on?

Stop using that argument. It's stupid. This game isn't Star Trek. It's "Fashion Show And Spaceships Online"..

I can admittedly say I did not know that, anything past the pretty lights and I usually walk away. I truly thought it was based off the movies and the shows and the books and such so I argued my points through that misunderstanding.

If it's not star trek then that definitely ruins every ones argument to have Carriers or boffs or abilities or costumes or anything, actually just that statement alone would make every argument players have on these forums sorta asinine. If players stop harking back to star trek then there would be no argument over who has carriers or what a cruiser is or should be. Or Cannon, or any of that stuff, In fact the only legitimate argument would be pve content on the red side as opposed to the blue. So in essence we should stop referring to ourselves as FEDS or KDFS and go back to like RED or BLUE.

I suppose that would be the best way to go about it, just change the names a bit and give both sides the same things and let them go at it instead of dividing lines and such, maybe thats what we should be discussing, such as names, factions, and lore so we can make this into what it really is if it's not star trek and just a knock off... it's like a bootleg. So to that extent you would be right but this is a dangerous statement that while it may be true (I can't say something is true until I verify t) could unravel the whole STO universe.
Captain
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Posts: 597
# 113
12-29-2012, 07:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by travelingmaster View Post
At that point, you just join the KDF and fly a BoP. . .because that's nearly identical to a BoP, just one extra eng console, 2 more rear weapon slots, and one less Boffslot.

Also, you can have our all-universal boffslot setup over our cold, dead bodies.
Who said all universal had to be exclusive to KDF? There is not tech manuals that say. If you want cold dead bodies, that can be arranged. ;-)
Captain
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# 114
12-29-2012, 07:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by r37 View Post
It would take a lot to get me back into Cruisers, the Breen ship might just do it. So, along those lines lets think crazy (it's never going to happen anyway).

500 Crew
30,000 Hull
0.8 Shield Mod
10 Turn Rate
Impulse Modifier 0.2
Inertia rating 40/50
Device slots 4
10 Weapon Power & 10 Engine Power
4 Fore Weapons
4 Aft Weapons
Bridge Officer Layout.
Commander Tactical
Lieutenant Commander Science
Lieutenant Commander Engineer
Lieutenant Tactical
Lieutenant Science.
2 Engineering Console Slots
4 Science Console Slots
4 Tactical Console Slots

Bonus console - No weapon drain from BO & reduces FAW to a single target while reducing FAW damage by 20% (or something like that). It may be crazy, but it would be dam fun to fly.
Dude, thats a complete escort, you won't be able to tank with that. The Devs did state in the video that it will be a cruiser for sure because it is one of the Enterprises. Come up with a cruiser like layout that has more than two Eng consoles.
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# 115
12-29-2012, 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexindcobra View Post
Who said all universal had to be exclusive to KDF? There is not tech manuals that say. If you want cold dead bodies, that can be arranged. ;-)
Going on that logic, then there's no reason not to let KDF have more sci ships or more ships with 5 consoles, because there's nothing that says they shouldn't have those either.

Also, he, R37, did say he was gonna 'think crazy' about that Ambassador spec.

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# 116
12-29-2012, 02:03 PM
Assault Cruiser would be the term I would use for it.

It's has a Sci/Tac focus rather then the typical Eng focus. No cannons, pure beam boat with extra damage (Console + Tac boffs). It dose have a lower shield mod & much lower hull then the average Cruiser, but the flexibility of the science slots helps to offsets that problem, and don't forget that the 10+ Eng bonus gives you a higher Def rating.

As for tank, TSSx2 & HEx2 + 1 Flavour skill or PH, and you still have EP:Sx2 & RSP/AP:SIF - 4 Science consoles to buff your heals, or your shield. If you can't survive with that at your disposal then it's not the ship that's the problem.

Last edited by r37; 12-29-2012 at 02:08 PM.
Career Officer
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# 117
12-30-2012, 03:48 AM
Lol, why do we keep calling cruisers flagships? They aren't, atleast not these ships?

Flagships are the biggest baddest boldest mofos in the fleet and cruisers are not these. Flagships can not only take the punishment they can dole it out in spades, infact, they deal more punishment then they can take. They were the jewels in the crowns of navies. The Spanish Dragon & Trinidad flagship, The Bellfast, The Bismark, the Enterprise, The Queen Anne, the list goes and on, these were flagships, they were op as hell and they had to be they were the statement of a culture saying this is what we have if you cross us, if you don't want to die then let us live in peace. The had total command of the seas and the armies and the flags of the attack patterns waved from them to let the others know what to do

No cruiser, none is able to bite anything other then the dust. Hell I can kill one in 20 seconds top with my eyes closed and prolly 10 if I just don't like your name. I think they should make an op Battleship i mean go ape **** with the consoles, like 2 commander everything's, 10 weapons layouts push it to 150, hull 100k shield mods like like crazy and do it for all the factions just go crazy on this thing and give it TEAM wide commands like

"All ships begin the assault" For 45 seconds all ships gain +25 energy to weapons a stack-able 10% to weapon damage and 3# bleed though.

"All ships take up defensive positions" For 45 seconds all ships have +25 to shield energy and 15% hull and shield resistance and 200/1 regen

"All ships Evasive maneuvers" For 45 seconds players have +25 to engine power can reach impulse speed of 30 and evasive raises by 15% and resistance increases by 10%

Then give it a passive like Go big or go home, or Pride of the Federation or whatever and give a passive heal and damage to all ships on the team because they know with her on the feild their chances of winning raises exponentially.

Then like make it 300-500 dollars to own to limit the numbers to hardcore gamers or fools and then just let it be, would I buy one? yes, yes I would, because I believe I deserve pretty things

If both sides had this behemoth on a battle field then lord knows a pvp battle will prolly last 10-20 minutes before the first kill lol it would be epic

But that ladies and gentlemen is a flag ship, op and can take on a team on it's own! That is a flagship
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 118
12-30-2012, 04:13 AM
a hybirde tactial/science 2 liutantent commander each cruiser would be something different in star trek online. the perfect cruiser to be a hybird tactial/science is the ambassador class. yes a tactial/science might only have one chief engineneering commander or even captian chief engineneering officer. the tactial/science cruiser hull be something like 40,500 base hull that naturally 30% resinstant to all damage types so only 2 engineneering consoles are needed and a single strong level engineneering officer with 4 or 5 abilities.

tactial/science 4 consoles each
enginerring 2 console slots
weapon slots either one of the following
4f/4a,
5f/3a,
or someting different 3f/5a weapon slots.

end game star trek cruiser so far must have 8 weapon slots but the 4f/4a after three years maybe it is time to offer cruisers with a different weapon slot numbers forward and aft options but still equaling to total of 8 weapons count
Lt. Commander
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# 119
12-30-2012, 04:18 AM
Because a lot of these ships were, at one point in time, fleet flagships.

Consitution was
Excelsior was
Ambassador was
Galaxy was
Sovereign was
Odyssey is

Where is it written that a flagship has to be godmode?

Of all the ships above, which one is the godmode ubercruiser you propose?

Not a single one of them..
Career Officer
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Posts: 246
# 120
12-30-2012, 02:41 PM
they were in the tv show but no int this game.

In a video game unless a ship demands respect, it get's none
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