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# 1 STF is a 4 map grind fest
10-03-2013, 05:34 PM
Some of this is faulted toward cryptic. When they introduced marks instead of random drops it killed stf's People now grind the same 4 maps. CSE, ISE, KAGE "sometimes" & KASA. Gone is HSE, HGE "Love that map" & CGE "miss that map & IGE" Now I know! The random maco drops had problems. But now with the marks all people do is grind those first 4! Grind for gear. Grind to convert it to DILL. The 2 main chat channels EliteSTF and PublicSTF are pointless to call out on if you want the other maps.

I love doing STF's! HGE and CGE are great maps! Really well made!! Takes a team!! Im on about a hour or so a night. I would spend that time doing those maps. Not for gear! I have so much adapted my away team has full sets lol. I just like to do them because they are fun. Is there a hidden channel for people like me? If not there should be. "But no I wont create it lol
Commander
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# 2
10-03-2013, 06:04 PM
Oh they are, ever since they revamped them they are nothing more then DPS Grind fests like PWE likes for all their games.

Its sad, I miss the old STF's pre season 4 where they were still all connected together, it was really awesome to group up with friends and go throguh them.

I wonder why they even touched the final version and not just focus on new content.

I even prefered the earlier implementation with the random MK XII drops at times, even that was better.

Rep ruined it all.




Oh well grindy or not, im totally sick of borg. It was borg when i just got into the game, its still borg. Well lets hope after Hive they are finally done with them.
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# 3
10-03-2013, 06:10 PM
I remember the story mode!! I miss that as well when they we connected. Cryptic needs to give reason to do them. If not a long story with a bonus at least give people a reason to do them all as they are now. Beyond the OP
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# 4
10-03-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by masterkeychnk5 View Post
Its sad, I miss the old STF's pre season 4 where they were still all connected together, it was really awesome to group up with friends and go throguh them.
Look, I understand the nostalgia, but lets be realistic here.

The reason STFs are grind-fest all about DPS is because they're old. They are so old that we've done them thousands of times before and it's all just muscle memory and no thinking. If they had left the STFs exactly as they were, long marathons split into ground and space - and never broken them up, they would still be exactly the same now. Grind fests we've all done a thousand times and have lost all meaning, teamwork and strategy because it's simply not needed any more.

I would disagree with the OP in that I run HSE pretty regularly, and IGE and CGE reasonably frequently albeit not as much.

The reason you're sick of them, is because you've done them to death and it's now just a 5 minute bit of content you need to do to fill your daily dilithium or rep grind. So what. Move on.
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# 5
10-03-2013, 06:29 PM
Maybe they should re-add the old STF, as several episodes ? Part of the borg front maybe. Make them solo friendly, add some special reward for it, I don't know, a unique set, DOFF, or remove the BOFF unlock from Khitomer ground and add it on the episode instead. Whatever.
They could even be used as a sort of tutorial for group STF. They could also use the NPC on DS9 as part of the tutorial/plot, Roxy must feel lonely now.

I was not there when they were introduced, and I've only done the over-grinded STF we have now. And considering the optional is time based, I've only zerged them, and never read the story behind.

I wouldn't mind to play a more slow paced and story based mission. Also, it wouldn't be too much complicated for Cryptic, and it's Romulan/KDF/Fed friendly.

I don't think it would be something great for long time players, but for new players, and people like me that missed the STF when they were introduced, it could interesting.

As for the OP question, you might want to try on publicelitestf channel. The ground missions are not the most played, but I was able to find the group for mine (unlocking the costume) quite easily. Just remember the players will probably want the optional, just like I did, for the costume/accolade.
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# 6
10-03-2013, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by topset View Post
Look, I understand the nostalgia, but lets be realistic here.

The reason STFs are grind-fest all about DPS is because they're old. They are so old that we've done them thousands of times before and it's all just muscle memory and no thinking. If they had left the STFs exactly as they were, long marathons split into ground and space - and never broken them up, they would still be exactly the same now. Grind fests we've all done a thousand times and have lost all meaning, teamwork and strategy because it's simply not needed any more.

I would disagree with the OP in that I run HSE pretty regularly, and IGE and CGE reasonably frequently albeit not as much.

The reason you're sick of them, is because you've done them to death and it's now just a 5 minute bit of content you need to do to fill your daily dilithium or rep grind. So what. Move on.
That's the thing its my post so I don't have to move on lol. So shh and just move on yourself. I am hoping by posting that maybe Cryptic will change something. Or maybe someone will say I love them as well! Lets hook up and start doing them! Or maybe there is a special chat channel.
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# 7
10-03-2013, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by erei1 View Post
Maybe they should re-add the old STF, as several episodes ? Part of the borg front maybe. Make them solo friendly, add some special reward for it, I don't know, a unique set, DOFF, or remove the BOFF unlock from Khitomer ground and add it on the episode instead. Whatever.
They could even be used as a sort of tutorial for group STF. They could also use the NPC on DS9 as part of the tutorial/plot, Roxy must feel lonely now.

I was not there when they were introduced, and I've only done the over-grinded STF we have now. And considering the optional is time based, I've only zerged them, and never read the story behind.

I wouldn't mind to play a more slow paced and story based mission. Also, it wouldn't be too much complicated for Cryptic, and it's Romulan/KDF/Fed friendly.

I don't think it would be something great for long time players, but for new players, and people like me that missed the STF when they were introduced, it could interesting.

As for the OP question, you might want to try on publicelitestf channel. The ground missions are not the most played, but I was able to find the group for mine (unlocking the costume) quite easily. Just remember the players will probably want the optional, just like I did, for the costume/accolade.
I am on that channel now. Not to much HGE, CGE or Ige, But I always go for the opp
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# 8
10-03-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jtmarsh View Post
That's the thing its my post so I don't have to move on lol. So shh and just move on yourself. I am hoping by posting that maybe Cryptic will change something. Or maybe someone will say I love them as well! Lets hook up and start doing them! Or maybe there is a special chat channel.
Please. They are changing something, they are adding season 8, a new grind for us to do.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 9
10-03-2013, 10:27 PM
Those 4 maps are the best challenge and possess the best reward/time ratio out of all the reputation systems. I wish there were more for all the rep systems.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 10
10-03-2013, 11:21 PM
Of all the Rep maps / instances, I prefer the STFs. But they're all stale to me after doing these few things far too many times. A shame you can't get rep for doing things across the game than having to redo the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
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