I had my first KHG Set on a KDF Engineer so i never noticed this behavior before,

today i got my Adapted Maco Pulswave Shotgun with Grenade launcher on one of my Fed Tactical Chars and i had to notice that the secondary attack from the Gun puts my Photon and Smoke Grenades from the Kit into global cooldown (roughly 5 seconds) !?

Who the hell thought THAT would be a good idea?


Also vice versa when you throw a Photon Grenade first the secondary attack of the gun will go into global cooldown... obviously.


I dont know about you but i usually open my attack with a grenade and then follow up with the secondary of the rifle, not possible here and it makes me nuts.
I didn't even pay attention to it ever, it is just how i play, now that i cant do it ....well i notice it and it sux! lol

There is even a KIT with 4 grenades, if you use that the gun can in theory be constantly on cooldown...


*swaps back to Antiproton Pulswave*
*gives Adapted Maco set to BOff*
*keeps visuals*
*wont spend any dilithium on the other 5 Tac chars for this set*
*hmpf*

you do know that this is "working as intended"

There are other similar effects to this. Try using Orbital Strike on your engineer, then fire the secondary on a standard Pulsewave Assault. Orbital Strike puts the secondary on a global cooldown. I think the idea is to limit how much AoE you can throw down on the ground at any given point, although I can't recall if I ever saw an official dev explanation for this. Still, I kind of think it's intentional.

I do like to use a grenade as a first strike so this could be annoying

It's been working like that for the KDF from the start. So what? If you're using a kit with too many grenades, it might be the problem.

Um... anyone who has ever rolled a KDF tac toon already knows this.

It's...a grenade? Makes sense I suppose.

The engineer's orbital strike ability puts all expose secondary attacks on cooldown, since orbital strike is considered an expose ability, although I don't think it's labeled as such.

Well, since I don't use a Grenade kit (Stealth all the way) this doesn't affect me in the slightest.


Meanwhile I get a space-shotgun with a grenade launcher.


Works for me.

Welcome to why the Grenade satchel is one of the worst kits available in game.

This^ it has always been that way with the Honor Guard Pulsewave.