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# 81
01-11-2013, 04:01 PM
We could discuss the lack of a Torpedo launcher and the Saucers Ventral Escape pods till the cows come home as they say, however surely Cryptic could just have different bits for customisation.

Have a Canon model of the Enterprise - C and one of the Updated Ambassador seen in later episodes, just like we have with the Excelsior(we got the original and Refit).

Also just like the Excelsior which gives us a choice to have a glow or no glow on the Nacelles, give us the option to swap out the neck for one the has a Torpedo launcher.

It's clearly Logical

Oh and on the note of adding extra customisation options to correct silly mistakes from the Canon models, why not make a Nebula Saucer that has Impulse Engines
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# 82
01-11-2013, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
Also the player ship version might look different from what the picture is shown since that is CLEARLY the Enterprise C and not a player ship...Especially when the players get their dirty hands on it and put borg stuff on it....You all know there is going to be a money version of this ship after the free one...are you people NEW nooo....so wait for it.


I see it now 5000 Zen version after free ship offer

USS Zhukov version

USS Enterprise C version

USS Excalibur from New frontiers version but with a 2409 look and feel

come on guys you're all not trying anymore this is Cryptic why am I doing your work
Well you are right, there will be a cstore version. Here is Dsthal telling us so from this months ask cryptic:

Q: (black08567) I love STO and all the ships, but I?d like to see more Klingon ships. Any chance of getting a bundle or maybe a Negh'Var Retrofit?

Dstahl: While the KDF will get access to the new ships being released in the Dominion Lock Box later this month, the next Klingon-specific ship is a brand-new design that will be released in both a T3 and T5 version around our 3 Year Anniversary.

If the kdf version is getting a T3 & T5 version, you can bet the Ambassador will too
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# 83
01-11-2013, 04:03 PM
Finally, to top my argument off, a quote from an interview with the man:
Quote:
"Understanding Greg Jein's knowledge of starship modeling, I felt comfortable penciling in a single "wedge" of saucer details and then instructing him to repeat the wedge around as necessary, rather than draw every single component. Did anything get left off the blueprints? Torpedo launchers, I think, and maybe a tractor beam emitter or two. Why Greg didn't catch that, I'll never know.
Left out of blueprint: torpedo launchers. They forgot it. Sternback was in a hurry and implied a lot of details he trusted another modeling artist, Greg Jein, to pick up. It didn't happen. Not to mention how the model was being rushed in the first place due to time constraints.
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# 84
01-11-2013, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
It's not fat, it's big boned.
I was thinking 'Corpulent'....

...Husky... ?

...perhaps Portly.

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# 85
01-11-2013, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
oh please, complaints about the galaxy, intrepid, defiant and other extreamly high quality hero ships models in game not measuring up and being different then source material is a lot different then a low quality source material model lacking basic features being copied verbatim into an in game ship model.
Fine, but here is them finally changing their ways with ships they are currently working on and making it look almost exactly like it was shown, and yet now you guys want them to add to it now I mean if I was a Dev I would be rolling my eyes into my head.

If the dev's want to go back to the other ships and fix them up fine by me, but they are not working on those they are working on this one right now and want to get it right so they wont have to go back.

Also that's the Enterprise C the player ship might have more customization , but we do know how the Enterprise C will look like and for the event, they got it right.
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# 86
01-11-2013, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
It's not fat, it's big boned.
Yes but I am getting tired of Escorts Online people pushing yet another Escort, currently there is a lack of cruisers with every time we hear about new ships the words "escort" and "hangar" come out, even the KDFers are going on about how the Empire needs Yet Another Escort ... with a Hangar ... and "Blow Enemy" button ... and Battlecloak.

I do resent people trying to turn the Ambassador something it was not, I know the design predates even the Enterprise D and it was always meant to be the middle design step, not a escort or a destroyer created to fight imaginary wars.

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Finally, to top my argument off, a quote from an interview with the man:


Left out of blueprint: torpedo launchers. They forgot it. Sternback was in a hurry and implied a lot of details he trusted another modeling artist, Greg Jein, to pick up. It didn't happen. Not to mention how the model was being rushed in the first place due to time constraints.

Yes but that is what we seen on screen, this makes it cannon and I sure as hell complained about when they "improved" the Toron shuttle into the current X-Wing version.

There is the question were the Torps will launch from in the STO model because it needs a launch point, as I said the location should roughly above the deflector in the neck section as in the Galaxy class due to how it was supposed to be there, even if it was left out because in STO torpedoes and mines are launched from a specific location as it have to be set, even canons hardpoints must be set, I am not fond of pimple on the Excelsior model but I know why its there, its a canon hardpoint.

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# 87
01-11-2013, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Yes but I am getting tired of Escorts Online people pushing yet another Escort, currently there is a lack of cruisers with every time we hear about new ships the words "escort" and "hangar" come out, even the KDFers are going on about how the Empire needs Yet Another Escort ... with a Hangar ... and "Blow Enemy" button ... and Battlecloak.

I do resent people trying to turn the Ambassador something it was not, I know the design predates even the Enterprise D and it was always meant to be the middle design step, not a escort or a destroyer created to fight imaginary wars.
Isn't it fairly obvious it's going to be a Cruiser?

No matter what folks may wish for.
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# 88
01-11-2013, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daveyny View Post
Isn't it fairly obvious it's going to be a Cruiser?

No matter what folks may wish for.
Yes, I admit there is room for a destroyer or "lighter" cruisers with specs similar to the Breen Warship but there should also be room in the KDF for Cruisers in the line of the "Federation whales" despite very vocal opposition to everything under "turn rate 12", unfortunately I flipped because I already seen that excuse about the Ambassador and let it get the better of me.
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# 89
01-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Yes, I admit there is room for a destroyer or "lighter" cruisers with specs similar to the Breen Warship but there should also be room in the KDF for Cruisers in the line of the "Federation whales" despite very vocal opposition to everything under "turn rate 12", unfortunately I flipped because I already seen that excuse about the Ambassador and let it get the better of me.
I just want to know what console it will have...is it going to get a console that let's you fire torpedo and send your enemies to the future.....OH MY GOD!! Mirror Weeping angels.
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# 90
01-11-2013, 04:24 PM
[quote=daveyny;7444081]Don't bend the Nacelle Pylons !!!







Don't worry I'll go for the neck.
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