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# 71
01-30-2013, 01:56 PM
See, for my Mirror Vor'cha - the Kamarag would mean giving up AB1 to move TSS1 to TSS3 while also being able to add TT1...

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# 72
01-30-2013, 01:57 PM
I'm somewhat happy. Would prefer a fleet version with +1 more sci consoles tho. I guess it is more a ship for new players, than old ones. But free is free.
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# 73
01-30-2013, 02:47 PM
Another silly pacifist Cruiser...a sitting duck...bah!
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# 74
01-30-2013, 03:03 PM
I'm bothered by the fact that both ships have Lt Tac, Ensign Tac, LtC Sci, but only 2 Sci Console slots. Balances it sure.. but annoyed.

And now to speculate what the C-store Variants of those ships will be like.. another 3 Pack maybe?
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# 75
01-30-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by webdeath View Post
I'm bothered by the fact that both ships have Lt Tac, Ensign Tac, LtC Sci, but only 2 Sci Console slots. Balances it sure.. but annoyed.

And now to speculate what the C-store Variants of those ships will be like.. another 3 Pack maybe?
i an only hope a fleet version is right around the corner, announced after the event. non fleet level ships have a steep disadvantage, 1 more sci console on them would make world of difference.
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# 76
01-30-2013, 03:43 PM
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i an only hope a fleet version is right around the corner, announced after the event. non fleet level ships have a steep disadvantage, 1 more sci console on them would make world of difference.
Kamarag with 2 aux2bat TBR 2, VM 1, or PSW 1 will still have its uses, I think. LTC Tac with LT and Ens Sci would have definitely been more inline with the aggressive BC designs you see KDF side... though maybe that's reason enough for this setup to exist. Think crunchier MVAM.

The Ambassador looks like the ideal Assault Cruiser replacement if you're using Damage Control DOff's over Technician DOff's. No less punch and the ability to slot a bitchin' TSS 3/Sci Team 3 shield heal while keeping ES 2/Aux2Sif 3 (or the other way around if you like).
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# 77
01-30-2013, 03:56 PM
i cant wait to get these ships, i can even dust off mah klingon!
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# 78
01-30-2013, 04:29 PM
I was wrong about the type of kitbash the Kamarag is. From the wallpaper I've got, it looks like a K't'inga saucer, Vor'cha hull, and Vor'Kang nacelles - but the images from the stat blog show that not to be the case.

Heck, even the images do not quite do the ship justice in representing the hull. 2:22 and 2:28+ show how it is a new hull. That neck is pretty skinny. The "wings" are Vor'cha but smaller. The pylons are straighter/less curved...K't'inga angles with Vor'cha design. The hull doesn't have two impulse ports - there's a single impulse port located in the smaller pod above the hull. The pod mount's not as wide.

Will need to sit one next a Vor'cha somewhere other than Qo'noS to see.

Maybe somebody can grab a decent screenie of a K't'inga, Vor'cha, Vor'Kang, and a Kamarag...oh well.

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# 79
01-30-2013, 04:30 PM
They are great ships, no doubt about that.

And Starwrath, the Ambassador is not a silly pacifist cruiser.
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# 80
01-30-2013, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
I was wrong about the type of kitbash the Kamarag is. From the wallpaper I've got, it looks like a K't'inga saucer, Vor'cha hull, and Vor'Kang nacelles - but the images from the stat blog show that not to be the case.

Heck, even the images do not quite do the ship justice in representing the hull. 2:22 and 2:28+ show how it is a new hull. That neck is pretty skinny. The "wings" are Vor'cha but smaller. The pylons are straighter/less curved...K't'inga angles with Vor'cha design. The hull doesn't have two impulse ports - there's a single impulse port located in the smaller pod above the hull. The pod mount's not as wide.

Will need to sit one next a Vor'cha somewhere other than Qo'noS to see.

Maybe somebody can grab a decent screenie of a K't'inga, Vor'cha, Vor'Kang, and a Kamarag...oh well.
That would be awesome to see. Maybe we can set it up ASAP? I'll bring the Vor'kang
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