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# 11
01-19-2013, 04:57 PM
I would suggest the Oddy or Vesta Tac but get the Oddy pack to get the chevron separation and the aquaries esscot consols.I got both of them on mine I take the hood down on larger targets(chevron).It works really well with cannons 2 singles in the front and 4 terrets.

You may want to wait untill the Amby comes out.
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# 12
01-20-2013, 08:21 AM
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I would suggest the Oddy or Vesta Tac but get the Oddy pack to get the chevron separation and the aquaries esscot consols.I got both of them on mine I take the hood down on larger targets(chevron).It works really well with cannons 2 singles in the front and 4 terrets.

You may want to wait untill the Amby comes out.
How much different is the Oddy Tac vs the Original handed out during the Anniversary event? If its just a slot or console added more moved around, then I do not want it haha.

The Oddy had a terrible turning rate and was just a giant target for me. And my Sovy set up would have had to been completely revamped for it to even be usable. I personally found the Oddy to be a terrible cruiser from my experience. It looks cool, but nothing more than that.
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# 13
01-20-2013, 08:31 AM
I know it is not a "cruiser" in the STo sense of the word, but I really would suggest to try the Armitage. It can be made almost as sturdy as a tac cruiser, and has some more punch plus a hangar bay.
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# 14
01-20-2013, 09:13 AM
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How much different is the Oddy Tac vs the Original handed out during the Anniversary event? If its just a slot or console added more moved around, then I do not want it haha.

The Oddy had a terrible turning rate and was just a giant target for me. And my Sovy set up would have had to been completely revamped for it to even be usable. I personally found the Oddy to be a terrible cruiser from my experience. It looks cool, but nothing more than that.
first: it has a tac console slot more = more firepower
second: chevron seperation is awesome
third: forget the other 2 consoles, aquarius is worthless and the drones are "meh"

i prefer a setup with 5 tac boffs slots and 3 science boff slots...only the commander engi with aux2sif 3

the chevorn sep makes the ship very maneuverable, more than any other cruiser (even on KDF side) if i'm not mistaken.
Versatility is exceptional, it can be virtually anything you want it to be.

basically your turning rate argument (which i agrre on) disapears with the chevron seperation console. Not only is it a turnrate boost, you also get a set of additional powers from the saucer and an extra gun.

PVP is a whole different story, but even there the oddy is among the best support cruisers you can have...you only need to change your boffs.
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# 15
01-20-2013, 09:47 AM
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first: it has a tac console slot more = more firepower
second: chevron seperation is awesome
third: forget the other 2 consoles, aquarius is worthless and the drones are "meh"

i prefer a setup with 5 tac boffs slots and 3 science boff slots...only the commander engi with aux2sif 3

the chevorn sep makes the ship very maneuverable, more than any other cruiser (even on KDF side) if i'm not mistaken.
Versatility is exceptional, it can be virtually anything you want it to be.

basically your turning rate argument (which i agrre on) disapears with the chevron seperation console. Not only is it a turnrate boost, you also get a set of additional powers from the saucer and an extra gun.

PVP is a whole different story, but even there the oddy is among the best support cruisers you can have...you only need to change your boffs.
I've never seen how the Disk Separation works honestly. Do you still retain control of both parts? And how would it work as a beam boat?
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# 16
01-20-2013, 09:58 AM
Also how is the Galaxy X dreadnought? It looks pretty decent and if its anything like the Galaxy except with upgrades, it seems like it could be a pretty decent ship as well.
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# 17
01-20-2013, 11:34 AM
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I've never seen how the Disk Separation works honestly. Do you still retain control of both parts? And how would it work as a beam boat?
No, you have control of your main ship...the saucer attacks your target and casts more or less intelligently it's abilitys on friends or targets.
when it gets destroyed you remain in the separated form, upon reuniting (or exiting the map) a 5 minute cooldown starts

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Also how is the Galaxy X dreadnought? It looks pretty decent and if its anything like the Galaxy except with upgrades, it seems like it could be a pretty decent ship as well.
the low turnrate make dual cannons only viable for PVE, and even there you will struggle with this low turnrate. The lance has a very long cooldown, so only viable for burst dmg...compared with the guramba javelin it seems worthless.
i've seen some effective 8 beam Galaxy X with the 2x aux2batt and technician doff setup, other than that i wouldn't consider it a dps cruiser.
2 years ago it may have been a viable cruiser option, but it has long been surpassed by other cruisers.
That may change again if the galaxy X gets a saucer separation aswell, which was promised for over a year now.
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# 18
01-20-2013, 11:35 AM
Exeter class. With the right build, it is a perfectly viable endgame ship.
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# 19
01-20-2013, 03:24 PM
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How much different is the Oddy Tac vs the Original handed out during the Anniversary event? If its just a slot or console added more moved around, then I do not want it haha.

The Oddy had a terrible turning rate and was just a giant target for me. And my Sovy set up would have had to been completely revamped for it to even be usable. I personally found the Oddy to be a terrible cruiser from my experience. It looks cool, but nothing more than that.
to fly an oddy you really have to have the set. the three consoles are saucer seper, escort and workbees. using saucer seper the ship flies as well as a excelsior. the escort does decent damage and can take the heat off you a bit. the workbees are a hull heal that can be run pretty continuously.

there is an ongoing "discussion" to using the sci hull for the sensor analysis, ot the tac for the third console slot.

I like, the C store assault ship
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# 20
01-21-2013, 04:55 PM
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No, you have control of your main ship...the saucer attacks your target and casts more or less intelligently it's abilitys on friends or targets.
when it gets destroyed you remain in the separated form, upon reuniting (or exiting the map) a 5 minute cooldown starts


the low turnrate make dual cannons only viable for PVE, and even there you will struggle with this low turnrate. The lance has a very long cooldown, so only viable for burst dmg...compared with the guramba javelin it seems worthless.
i've seen some effective 8 beam Galaxy X with the 2x aux2batt and technician doff setup, other than that i wouldn't consider it a dps cruiser.
2 years ago it may have been a viable cruiser option, but it has long been surpassed by other cruisers.
That may change again if the galaxy X gets a saucer separation aswell, which was promised for over a year now.
Well that throws the Galaxy out as an option. I'm trying to find a cruiser that has a good turn rate and dps. The Assault Cruiser works perfectly for me. I can tank fairly well as a distraction for a short amount of time and put out damage. All while being maneuverable and fast.

So far, the Excelsior sounds like the perfect choice, but I don't know if I want to get it now or if I should wait for the new ships to come out. And the Assault Refit sounds decent as well, but I'm kinda leaning towards the Excelsior for that extra turn rate.
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