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# 21
01-23-2013, 09:22 AM
Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
With this new Dominion lock box coming out(which I am a fan simply because of the Dominion focas - not the lock-box focas) - will you be playing "Lock-Box Online"(trademarking this)

Also with so many non-faction ships in the game why do I have to be part of the Fed or KDF?

This makes no sense - I am "buying" a used ship from the Ferengi - which no Starfleet Adm would have to do to get a ship - then I now an independant - I have left starfleet.

Why can't I be a former Starfleet Adm - now retired - trading or fighting for hire or whatever in one of my "used" Dominion ships????

I mean I "bought" a used ship with my own money why do I have to be part of Starfleet or the KDF???

I feel ya, i personnally hate the lock boxes. I think they should just sell the ships in the c-store. I have bought my share of c-store ships and will again i am sure. But I hate to gamble. Its such a let down. Every time I see a lock box I feel Cryptic/PWE is trying to hustle me. It used to mess with my immersion big time. Now I just ignore them.

But if they have to have em, put them in their own map. Or give me the option to turn them off. They are so abundant they might as well just hand them out to anyone who wants them.

I would like to say though to all the haters, one reason I came back to sto is that this game DOES run better than the other MMO's I have played, for whatever reason. AND Cryptic has done alot of good work and tied up alot of loose ends since I was playing sto last about 8 months ago.
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# 22
01-23-2013, 09:31 AM
No, I don't throw money away in casinos therefore I certainly wont on digital items I do not own...

I will never agree with the lockbox system, more so now that the rules surrounding why they had to be rare ended with the Breen ship.

I would buy every one of the ships and other items in the Lobi store if they were put in the cstore. I would even do so if they were per character, but so long as they are contained within lockboxes I will never spend a penny on them.

I own a Bug ship and a Mobius, but these were bought from the exchange where it required no monetary donation from me
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# 23
01-23-2013, 09:33 AM
Originally Posted by hanover2 View Post
I have vowed to never, ever let them chisel more currency off of me to open a lock box. I already give them $14.99 a month, and it annoys me that those stupid boxes drop in place of loot I'd actually value.
They do not. Lockboxes drop as a separate drop table. You will NEVER get a Lockbox instead of another item; you will only get them in addition to other items.
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# 24
01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
Do You Play Lock-Box Online?

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# 25
01-23-2013, 10:15 AM
Originally Posted by born2bwild1 View Post
Not true I am making EC by trading in the galactic market - and latinum and lobi - I can hire my own crew to man the "used" ship that I purchased.

With adding so many non-starfleet ships - they have made being part of Starfleet forever - irrelivant.

Cryptic should open up a non-aligned faction!
Yes, because, in a time of war, Starfleet was NEVER shown using other faction's ships...oh, wait...

(IE go back and rewatch DS9's first two Season 6 episodes - "A Time to Stand" and "Rocks and Shoals" - they (Star Fleet officers are flying/commanding a Jem Hadar sttack ship (aka 'bug ship'.)
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# 26
01-23-2013, 10:43 AM
Leaving your faction will never be implemented, or not without such a high cost nobody would ever pay for it, which is changing race to pick one from your new faction (humans in the KDF is silly), getting all your ships deleted, and loosing all your faction specific gear.

This is why the best choice is just no faction change. If you want a KDF you may roll a new char, char slots are damn cheap anyway.
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# 27
01-23-2013, 11:04 AM
Originally Posted by syberghost View Post
They do not. Lockboxes drop as a separate drop table. You will NEVER get a Lockbox instead of another item; you will only get them in addition to other items.
Well then I'd prefer the option of dropping normal loot instead, for people who hate the lock box crap. At least I can sell a crappy impulse engine for decent EC.

I know, I know, it's a source of income and will never go away, but I can dream.
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# 28
01-23-2013, 11:17 AM
Originally Posted by syberghost View Post
They do not. Lockboxes drop as a separate drop table. You will NEVER get a Lockbox instead of another item; you will only get them in addition to other items.
I'd be much happier if there were a way to turn off receiving Lockbox drops, or at minimum, allow them to stack up to 999 in your personal storage as they do in CO.
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# 29
01-23-2013, 11:26 AM
I don't particularly like the lockboxes myself.

Having said that, the more I've thought about it I don't really have any great issue with them. This is a F2P game. And compared to a lot it's actually a fairly well designed one, in that even though I am not personally paying money to play, I *could* access almost everything, I just have to do it over time. A lot of F2P games are actually rubbish that lock you out from like half the game. This doesn't.

In theory I could cash in Dil for keys. Or just sell everything and use EC to get keys. Will never be as fast as just paying... but I see that as fair enough. People who pay have the edge. That's how the system is supposed to work. And if I choose to ignore boxes altogether, that's my choice. There's still plenty of fun in the game...even if I admdit I'd like that Tholian Orb Weaver someday (and maybe I'll still get it).

I actually think this whole lockbox thing is a better designed "reward for pay players" system than some people give it credit for.

I'd much rather have a F2P game that works this way (essentially making "bonus" material easier for pay players to access but we all play the same game), than one which locks you out of half the actual game content. This is far more sustainable in the long run.
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# 30
01-23-2013, 11:31 AM
I don't believe the OP is entirely sincere with calls for a third faction. If anything, the first post(s) and thread title suggest to me a backhanded and/or passive-aggressive swipe at Cryptic and PWE for being so eager to sell us stuff(*) that they've diluted the IP to the point of being meaningless.

(* or rather, the possibility of getting stuff, which is so much more lucrative than just letting us buy it outright.)

Personally, with one notable exception out of five characters, I don't fly non-Starfleet or KDF ships. (The one being a Tuffli-class freighter, whose captain was specifically created for that ship/concept and to not be regular KDF.) I didn't even bother to pick up my free Chel Grett. I do think it's a bit silly to see so many people flying around in them, or in Wellses, as they did before in Recluses and Atroxes and so on. (And later this year, maybe, they'll be flying Mogais or D'Deridexes or Andorian cruisers.) But really, it's no sillier than half a dozen other immersion-breaking things I see daily on ESD or in sector space.

I've seen fads and flavors-of-the-month come and go before, in other games; seen the plaza of CoH's Atlas Park full of elves with bows, guys in trenchcoats, captains with shields, and so on. Once added to the available options, they never go away entirely, but after something else comes out their numbers dwindle until they're no more common than anything else. It's natural, it happens, and I try not to let it bother me.

(Especially since more options means there's a chance, however slight, that I might someday get my wish for a proper Gorn cruiser - not a science vessel - for the aforementioned "simple freighter captain.")
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