Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 62
# 1 Dominion HEC
01-23-2013, 03:00 PM
Anyone else underwhelmed..

Bad turn, 4 tac consoles and odd boff set up...

Stats:-

The Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier comes standard with 1 hangar bay of Jem'Hadar Fighters. Jem'Hadar Fighters are armed with Polaron Pulse Cannons and can use Directed Energy Modulation I.
?Faction: Federation or Klingon
?Rank Required: Rear Admiral or Brigadier General
?Availability: Dominion Lockbox
?Hull Strength: 37,500
?Shield Modifier: 1
?Crew: 350
?Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft
?Device Slots: 3
?Hangar Bays: 1
?1 Jem'Hadar Fighter Hanger Pet
?Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Ensign Science, 1 Lieutenant Universal
?Console Modifications: 4 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 2 Science
?Base Turn Rate: 12 degrees per second
?Impulse Modifier: 0.2
?+10 Weapon Power, +5 Shield Power, +5 Auxiliary Power
?Can equip cannons
?Console ? Universal ? Dominion Coordination Protocol
Commander
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# 2
01-23-2013, 03:21 PM
What, were you expecting a Super Ship like the JHAS?

Sorry, but in this case, Cryptic and PWE has learned from the OPness that is the JHAS and made it's bigger cousins less OP.

In fact, I will say these are the most balanced Lockbox Ships I have ever seen.

Low Turn Rate? Use Warp Plasma and Tractor Beams to pin your enemies

4 Tac Consoles? It's as good as all but 3 Escorts

Odd Boff setup? I call it an interesting setup.
Captain
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# 3
01-23-2013, 03:41 PM
the dreadnought carrier is kind of cool imo, not for PVP i guess but for PVE.

I'm not 100% through with thinking and looking, but they seem to fill a gap, without outperforming other ships.
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# 4
01-23-2013, 03:51 PM
I'm very surprised that none of the new Dominion Lock box ships have 5 tactical console slots.

When the JHAS bug was first released, it had only 4 tactical console slots. Later on it was given a 5th console slot to remain competitive with fleet ships (I'm guessing one of the Cryptic Dev's had a personal JHAS lol).
Captain
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# 5
01-23-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by shar487a View Post
I'm very surprised that none of the new Dominion Lock box ships have 5 tactical console slots.

When the JHAS bug was first released, it had only 4 tactical console slots. Later on it was given a 5th console slot to remain competitive with fleet ships (I'm guessing one of the Cryptic Dev's had a personal JHAS lol).
When the JHAS was first released, it only had 9 console slots total. The 5th Tac console was its 10th console, which brought it up to par with Fleet ships.

Both of these Dominion ships have 10 console slots, too, just not in the same spots as the JHAS.

Last edited by thratch1; 01-23-2013 at 04:12 PM.
Captain
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# 6
01-23-2013, 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thratch1 View Post
When the JHAS was first released, it only had 9 console slots total. The 5th Tac console was its 10th console, which brought it up to par with Fleet ships.

Both of these Dominion ships have 10 console slots, too, just not in the same spots as the JHAS.
ironic how leaving it at 9 consoles would have actually balanced it out in comparison to most other escorts, but yeah a few devs must have had one themselves.
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# 7
01-23-2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thratch1 View Post
Well, when the JHAS was first released, it only had 9 console slots total. The 5th Tac console was its 10th console, which brought it up to par with Fleet ships.

Both of these Dominion ships have 10 console slots, too, just not in the same spots as the JHAS.
Given that the JHAS was introduced before fleet ships, there is no reason they should get any retroactive upgrade -- they are relics of the Dominion War. Since JHAS are the most prolific Dominion ship, and the fact that all of them are fleet ships, this implies that the Dominion uses nothing but fleet ships! This puts both the Federation and KDF in a very awkward spot lol with their newer, inferior ship models despite having comparable technology levels with the Gamma Quadrant.

Something smells very fishy here lol
Career Officer
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# 8
01-23-2013, 04:37 PM
Really, the Dominion should have won the war against the Alpha Quadrant. If only the wormhole was opened, our outnumbered fleet would have been reinforced and there would be a Vorta Overseer on every world of the Alpha Quadrant today.

Praise the Founders!
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# 9
01-23-2013, 04:42 PM
I will still fly my Armitage, hell, even the Vesta is a better ship!
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# 10
01-23-2013, 04:46 PM
It will do ok in pve, not better then the Armitage, but will still be able to pull its weight. In pvp it will be useless for most people. You would probaby need to use the lt uni as sci, and use aux2bat build with technician doffs to have enough up time on its single commander tac station. Only problem is with your aux drained so much it will make launching replacement fighters longer.
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