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# 101
03-07-2013, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by archoncryptic View Post
To reiterate, not all Romulan Tactical BOFFs are supposed to have Romulan Operative. That's intentional, and that's not being changed.

We *might* put more Romulan BOFFs on the store at some point, so that people can get the trait combinations they want - such as greens with Basic Romulan Operative, purples with Superior Romulan Operative, etc.

Adjusting the existing BOFFs would be unfair to people who bought the BOFFs for the powers they already have. While Subterfuge isn't as popular as Romulan Operative in the forum community, that doesn't mean someone didn't buy a BOFF with the intent of getting the Subterfuge trait.

Moreover, Subterfuge has some changes coming that should make it more generally appealing - I think that will alleviate a large part of this issue.
Romulan Operative (and its Basic and Superior versions) make the most sense on tactical officers considering that they enhance critical chance and severity... besides that; It still doesnt explain why you used any random generation for a sample size of 18.

I want a female Tac officer with Superior Romulan Operative (my crew is all female...)... but cant get one because you guys chose the exact wrong way to go about making 18 bridge officers... I could have understood if this was going to be 100 bridge officers... but honestly for 18 I would have assigned them by hand and been done with it and it wouldnt have made it look like you just didnt care.

So now you need to add more... because Im not gonna be happy until I can get a female tac officer with Superior Romulan Operative. (And this adding more thing could have been avoided by just no using any random selection at all in the first place)
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# 102
03-07-2013, 05:53 AM
@archoncryptic

Your solution of not changing the abilities of existing Doffs and only add new Doffs to complement the existing ones I personally think it's the correct one.

It should be fair to everybody including who already bought romulan boffs and who will buy in future the new ones.
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# 103
03-07-2013, 06:06 AM
Sigh. The algorithm they used to assign traits gave the same weighting to all Superior traits, as if Superior Mental Discipline is exactly as desirable as Superior Romulan Operative. And that's clearly not true. You've got to put a little thought into these things in the future.

And I won't call you sexist, but it's definitely a mistake in a Star Trek game to give a male character a vastly superior trait than a female character. That ain't gonna fly with your audience.

...some of us sexist nerds want all-female crews...

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# 104
03-07-2013, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
This doesn't make any sense and is counter to what was stated.

At present, there is NO Boff with Basic Romulan Operative. There used to be a Basic Covert Operative. But, when you made the change a few weeks ago, it was changed to Romulan Operative. If there is not meant to be a Basic Romulan Operative, why state that there is and give the stats on what it is supposed to be?

And, you already changed the nature of Operative to the people that already purchased it when you reduced critical hit and increased critical severity on the Operative trait. You may as well fix it as it was intended (or what the scale-to-rarity was set to). I'm sure most people bought the Very Rare Tactical BOFF in hopes of getting the Superior Operative trait, not reading the traits before purchasing. Likewise, I'm sure people bought the Female Rare tactical BOFF expecting it to have the same trait as the male version for the same reason. Are you not intending to fix this as well?

If you're going to try change Subterfuge, fix them both by combining the two traits into one and impose a stack limit to 3.
I agree. Hell if the change would be deemed unfair - despite changes already, then all Cryptic would have to do is give a refund to people and let them buy again. If that would be to much trouble then let us sell it back to the vender for a token to get a new one.

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# 105
03-07-2013, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aspartan1 View Post
While I agree with everything Shookyang is saying I do disagree on one point. I dont think there should be a limit with them. We can run five of any trait BOs we want so if someone wants to run five Rommies then they should be allowed. Otherwise, I agree with everything.

I was saddened when I was compelled to buy the male rare when I really wanted the female for my all girl crew....
They combined Subterfuge and Operative, and everyone had 5 BOFFs, this would most definitely be too much.

If we got Superior Operative (2% critical hit, 5% critical severity), that would be a total of 10% critical hit and 25% critical severity. That is way, WAY too much. They changed Operative from 5% critical hit to 2% critical hits, 5% critical severity because the critical hit was way too high. But, now you have to balance it so that critical severity isn't too high either. I think capping it at 3 would be fine.
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# 106
03-10-2013, 04:54 PM
The whole implementation was a bad idea IMHO. Either make the BOFFs unique (Android, Breen, etc.) or give variations of them. Also there was absolutely no need to make them more powerful as the usual doffs. I know one has to build the embassy, so what? Also making the skills different for the different levels of the BOFFs is not only illogical, but stupid.

Fix it please, as it is, it is simply a nightmare.
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# 107
03-11-2013, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by shookyang View Post
They combined Subterfuge and Operative, and everyone had 5 BOFFs, this would most definitely be too much.

If we got Superior Operative (2% critical hit, 5% critical severity), that would be a total of 10% critical hit and 25% critical severity. That is way, WAY too much. They changed Operative from 5% critical hit to 2% critical hits, 5% critical severity because the critical hit was way too high. But, now you have to balance it so that critical severity isn't too high either. I think capping it at 3 would be fine.
It is sort of like the all human crew now - no? A trade off to be sure - offense or defense or power.

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# 108
03-11-2013, 02:44 PM
So guys in a nut shell, what Boffs do we want to get if we want the best crit possible? tried reading this forums but way too confusing
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# 109
03-11-2013, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mariartus View Post
So guys in a nut shell, what Boffs do we want to get if we want the best crit possible? tried reading this forums but way too confusing
At this moment, the Rare Male Romulan Tactical BOFF.
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# 110
03-11-2013, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the Reply, but do i want only one of them, or stack? and are they likely to fix the purple ones? or they working as intended?
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