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Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 111
01-25-2013, 08:00 AM
I would find this acceptable Bort, thanks. But one question, any way for us who have already paid the 200 price to recoup 50 crystals? I think I know the answer already and will not be ragequitting over it. Thanks for the explanation and the tweaks.
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# 112
01-25-2013, 08:20 AM
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Hello STO'ers!
Hello Bort!

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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
Before I detail the improvements we'll be making, I'd like to remind players that we still intend for STF/Omega and Starbase/Embassy gear to be superior in scope to items that can be obtained from Missions and/or Lobi Store. It's possible that our original blog was worded in a way that could easily be misinterpreted to mean otherwise,

For myself at least, I was looking at the Crystal-Woven ground gear > Lobi upgrade and thinking that's what might end up happening.

I understand that you don't want to make this set superior to the Rep/Fleet gear, but even at the new price of 150 lobi - a smart player is going to see that as 150 lobi / 4 lobi per box = WCS Cost of $37.50.

Which is more than any single, T5 ship in the store and approaches the price of the ship bundles. (It could cost less, you might get "lucky").





Anyway, those changes look reasonable for people that might be attracted to buying it.


While I love purple, 150 lobi is still quite a lot for something that doesn't compete with the gear I do have.

Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 84
# 113
01-25-2013, 08:21 AM
I think I will weigh in on this one. When I read the blogs that there would be an upgrade to the Jemmie set I was ecstatic. I really enjoy the set, the visuals and the history (big DS9 fan here) and it's also what I am currently using on my fleet saber. Firstly I will make mention that I was rather disappointed that the Dominion Polaron's are not seeing an upgrade to mk12 purple, but i guess that is neither here nor there. I went out and purchased a total of 21 keys yesterday so I can start earning the lobi to get the new space set (and possibly the ground set) and that sweet looking new mini-gun. Thanks to the stat picture post from earlier in the thread, i have to sadly say that I'm underwhelmed at the new set. For 200 Lobi, i really was expecting more. I'll go out on a limb and say I might pay 50-70 lobi for this, but 200 is something I'm not really willing to spend at this point.

(oh and as an aside, I'm not a pvp'er and I only have one character. I'm not looking to be over-powered, but I'd like something stronger than what I've got for that type of time and money).

Oh and the ground set visuals that I saw posted in this thread? I got no issue with them. I'm actually pleased with them because they aren't those awful Starfleet unitard plastic-looking things. If I had the extra lobi, I'd totally upgrade the sets that some of my BOff's are using. it never made sense to me that the visuals for the Jem ground set were of the Starfleet armor so kudos on the change!
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 114
01-25-2013, 08:27 AM
Yeah, seems like too much Lobi to be worth the set upgrades.
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 543
# 115
01-25-2013, 08:33 AM
Encouraging changes Jeremy. Thanks for listening. I will reserve judgement tho depending on the shield capacity and regen rates increase and i see my mates stats with the changes before i consider it as those were the largest of issues with it.
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# 116
01-25-2013, 08:35 AM
There seems to be a disconnect on what 'competitive' means.

Most of us interpret that to mean 'rough equity in power, but not a copy' whereas Cryptic seems to intend 'almost as good but still clearly inferior.'

I, and most people, don't have much interest in paying real money for clearly inferior, so thank you for clarifying and saving us the trouble.

No, Bort, the 'we still intend omega to be best' was not at all clear from the description of the new Jem stuff, particularly when you guys keep releasing ships that are categorically better than older ships -- we are confused because you are inconsistent about standards and levels of power.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 84
# 117
01-25-2013, 08:37 AM
And of course while I was writing my thoughts, Borticus posted. I wouldn't mind those changes at that price. I'd just wait until next week to get it all then. I think I'm almost at 150 lobi as it is...
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 242
# 118
01-25-2013, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by zahinder View Post
There seems to be a disconnect on what 'competitive' means.

Most of us interpret that to mean 'rough equity in power, but not a copy' whereas Cryptic seems to intend 'almost as good but still clearly inferior.'

I, and most people, don't have much interest in paying real money for clearly inferior, so thank you for clarifying and saving us the trouble.

No, Bort, the 'we still intend omega to be best' was not at all clear from the description of the new Jem stuff, particularly when you guys keep releasing ships that are categorically better than older ships -- we are confused because you are inconsistent about standards and levels of power.
I think this is the take away now.

I didn't read anywhere in any blog, post, or article that this set was meant to be inferior, sorry, 'Competitive' Read- not on par with, say, any other MK XII set in the game. So I don't think you are reminding us, as much as informing/spinning it. But either way, we get the point.

The engine buff, synergy buff, and sweep buff sound good. These really should have been included already. The shield buff with regen sound really good in combination as a whole.

We will see what happens with the new price as far as refund for already purchased items.
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# 119
01-25-2013, 08:51 AM
Anyone making the argument that, 1. "you just want good itam cause it is shopped" or 2. "this would break pve" really has no clue about game balance. No one here is asking for mega overpowered items, they are asking for comparable items to what is available in already "free" acquirable sets. So your logic is purely flawed.

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# 120
01-25-2013, 08:53 AM
OMG im so bloody angry 200lobi down the drain what a waste of time the set is terrible and improved? LOL yeah right its almost the exact same set i want my bloody lobi back
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