Commander
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# 31
01-24-2013, 03:25 PM
Also the XII Jem Hadar Eng stats are identical to the XI stats.
Captain
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# 32
01-24-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aelfwin1 View Post
I hate to be on the side of Cryptic on this but could it be that the did not want this mk12 set to boost the Bug too much ?
Its still being boosted.

The problem is this, the Mk XII set makes sense if you look at it in a void however it does not exist in a void, Cryptic simply taken a existing set and boosted it to Mk XII stats were the boost is by using real money.

Let me give you a example, I buy ... say TERA, now TERA gives you a mount at Lv 11, however if you buy the electronic version of TERA you get a mount at lv 1, a better mount that the lv. 11.

LOTRO does something like that as well.

You see, people dont complain because not only you get it sooner but also its superior to the first mount, its made irrelevant later but it have little impact on gameplay.

Cryptic on the other hand is trying to sell Mk XII gear using the same rationality as normal "game balance", that is the set cannot compete with with the triumvirate (MACO/Omega/Honor Guard) yet they are charging money for it, sure there are a lot of smoke and mirror to say people are not buying it with real money when they are and this is why people complain.

They arent idiots.

Also its becoming more and more obvious Cryptic have no desire to add new content to the game, just more pointless toys.

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# 33
01-24-2013, 03:30 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/candarie/8411757763

The screenshot appears a bit darker than my actual in-game does, but you can still see several very tan portions of the costume - nothing is tan in the show or on the boff. I'm expecting charcoal black at least.
Career Officer
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# 34
01-24-2013, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by candarie View Post
Forum Admins: The Ground Set is not the Space Set, please do not merge into the space set thread where the information cannot be found. I know the Space Set thread exists and that is why I did not post this in the Space Set thread, because it is not for the Space Set.

After reading http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=804951 and seeing this:



&&



I excitedly bought upgrades for my shelved JH11 gear. There's another thread going about the joke of a Space Set already too. I'm sorry to report that the upgraded items do not actually contain additional upgrades. The items appear to have undergone a template upgrade to MKXII and nothing else.

The increases over unupgraded items are:
Weapon: +8.3 dps only. No other changes
Armor: +1.1 Health Regen, +18.6 Resist, +7.6 Shield Regen
Shield: +31.1 Shield Cap, Lose 20% Phaser / Disrupt Resist, Gain 10% Resist All

These items are weaker than Advanced Fleet outright (same approximate stats, but minus special abilities) and weaker than MKXII STF gear in both stats and abilities. For an extra kick in the rear, the promised costume option does not look like the Jem Hadar in DS9 or the Jem Hadar Boff. The colors are way off and the key elements are missing (no pointed shoulders, ketracel attach, nothing).

Put simply, these items are horrible and did absolutely none of what was advertised.

Good luck - your will be thread merged into oblivion as well, even though there should be separate threads for space and ground.


What both sets DO have in common is limited value and a lost opportunity for something neat, something fun and something different.
Lieutenant
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# 35
01-24-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by candarie View Post
These items are weaker than Advanced Fleet outright (same approximate stats, but minus special abilities) and weaker than MKXII STF gear in both stats and abilities.
Uhm, duh?

Of course they're going to be subpar compared to the systems they've been encouraging us to spend months grinding on. They weren't going to give us the option to completely sidestep the Fleet Starbase or Omega Reps. Assuming they would is frankly naive.
Career Officer
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# 36
01-24-2013, 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by candarie View Post
http://www.flickr.com/photos/candarie/8411757763

The screenshot appears a bit darker than my actual in-game does, but you can still see several very tan portions of the costume - nothing is tan in the show or on the boff. I'm expecting charcoal black at least.
LOLWUT

That's the costume? That's it?


W T F?

Ripoff. Lamesauce. Sorry.
Captain
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# 37
01-24-2013, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by badname834854 View Post
Ripoff. Lamesauce. Sorry.
This is a understatement.
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# 38
01-24-2013, 03:34 PM
That's not much of a upgrade? Damn I was hoping to pull my Bug out of storage, but that does not seem worth it?

The bug was very rare to get, the Jem'Hadar at least requires some work to collect the full set, the upgrade costs a significant amount of Lobi, then the result should be something equivalent to a Fleet setup.

I'm loving my Fleet Tac Escort Retrofit with Fleet Gear and will just stick with that now.

Hoping this gets reviewed and upgraded at least.


Edit - here is s screenshot of the shields.
The Jem'Hadar one is fitted to the Bug, my regular fleet ones to my FTER
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBdB5FQCcAAcjSB.png

Is is like flying an egg in RA's. Not suitable for escorts.
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Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
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# 39
01-24-2013, 03:37 PM
The stats on the XII Jem Hadar Eng are the same as the XI. How is that an upgrade? Keep up the posts people, Let Cryptic know that we want better for these sets for the price they are charging. They are charging for an Impulse Eng upgrade that the only difference is in the name.
Commander
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# 40
01-24-2013, 03:41 PM
could i ask if someone could post the xii ground set stats please? the jem hadar xi set isnt as good as x omega..kinda wanting to see if its close with the xii set might play around with it in game
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