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Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 51
01-27-2013, 06:26 PM
Guys seriously stop comparing Beams to DHCs. It is overkill.

Even cannons + turrets out damage them AND have a larger firing arc.
Career Officer
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# 52
01-27-2013, 06:30 PM
I use all beams on my eng toon's galor, and can keep the weapon power above 100 about 90% of the time, even using FAW or broadsiding. It's all in what you want from your cruiser. Mine's built to be an attack cruiser, to shield tank and still dish out decent damage ( typically in the 750-1100 dps range ,per beam, as indicated by the HUD display), while staying alive. It's all in your focus. A healer or straight up tank is not going to be a DPS king because that's not what you built it to be. To excel in one area is to compromise in another. That's just how it is.
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# 53
01-27-2013, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sjokruhlica View Post
I use all beams on my eng toon's galor, and can keep the weapon power above 100 about 90% of the time, even using FAW or broadsiding. It's all in what you want from your cruiser. Mine's built to be an attack cruiser, to shield tank and still dish out decent damage ( typically in the 750-1100 dps range ,per beam, as indicated by the HUD display), while staying alive. It's all in your focus. A healer or straight up tank is not going to be a DPS king because that's not what you built it to be. To excel in one area is to compromise in another. That's just how it is.
My Engineer in a Steamrunner disagrees. He tanks tac cubes and still does more damage than a beam boat is capable of.

For that matter my Tac in a Fleet Defiant also disagrees, he can tank tac cubes for about a minute without a sweat and does more damage than my steamrunner and a beam boat combined! If said cube isn't dead after a minute well that just means I disengage for about ten seconds and groan about bad PuGs before going in to finish the job.

Because you see, the two most important parts about tanking in STO would be Emergency Power to Shields and a solid amount of shield power. Oh and Hazard Emitters. And the Yo-Yo manuever. That's about all one needs.
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# 54
01-27-2013, 09:44 PM
'scuse me? I killed a jem dread just last ngiht with my galot. Nothing but polaron mk XI purple beams. It's not in the ship, it's how you fly it. BO3 supported by tac team 1, apA, apB, fire on my mark, go down fighting with 40% hull, tac fleet and a critical hit, and I shot for 50k damage, brought him down too 10% hull. Didn't take much too finish him off...
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# 55
01-27-2013, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by momaw View Post
If you can seriously look at ship A, which is devoting half of its capacity just to not fall flat on its face when it tries to fire its weapons, and compare it to ship B which plugs in a set of weapons and sets power to maximum and then never worries about it ever again, and not realize that this is a serious gameplay balance problem, then I don't even know how to talk to you. It's like trying to explain the principles of mathematics to somebody who thinks the counting numbers are one, two, purple, dog, squish.
Hmmm, you realize the reverse is also true don't you? Cruisers fret to do damage and escorts fret to survive. But good news! the new Rom beam array uses up no power, that should help calm down anyone having too difficult a time. Personally, I expect my cruiser alt to get it sometime next decade since the rep system is such good and exciting fun to get alts through!
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# 56
01-27-2013, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
Hmmm, you realize the reverse is also true don't you? Cruisers fret to do damage and escorts fret to survive. But good news! the new Rom beam array uses up no power, that should help calm down anyone having too difficult a time. Personally, I expect my cruiser alt to get it sometime next decade since the rep system is such good and exciting fun to get alts through!
But the new array, is ugly plasma ? GIVE ME PHASER. I would really love STARFLEET variant of the rumulan set with phasers + photons. Sad part is, the romulan set is almost the thing I imagined for Galaxy set.

Console - > saucer sep
Romulan set like Heavy Phaser Beam array
Omega-like (with charges) dual photon torpedo launcher

2: piece bonus +phaser dmg
3: piece bonus heavy beam array hit
Captain
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# 57
01-27-2013, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skyranger1414 View Post
But good news! the new Rom beam array uses up no power, that should help calm down anyone having too difficult a time.
Romulan experimental beam doesn't consume power by itself, but it IS affected by your weapon power level, which will still be drained like crazy from your other arrays.

It shouldn't be dependent on your weapon power since it's supposed to have its own power supply built in.

Also, it's rather suspicious that the devs made it unique so we can't have more than one. An entire beam boat made of non-draining arrays would solve the problem in a rather spectacular way.

Last edited by momaw; 01-27-2013 at 10:57 PM.
Commander
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# 58
01-28-2013, 02:44 AM
Devs knows, that with ability to slot multiple such arrays, their belowed DHC escorts would be kicked from the top of the food chain. It wont happen, ever.

I suppose that, for the same reason, any sort of change fixing beam issues wont happen. Or will be sabotaged (read: it's working as intended).
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# 59
01-28-2013, 02:54 AM
[Brings out popcorn, thinking how funny it is to read about moaners that scream for God-mode buttons... ...Mah ship must turn on a dime. Insta-oneshott, tank borg queen lancewaeponz alone, heal everything at once 200%. At least...]
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Captain
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# 60
01-28-2013, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sandormen123 View Post
[Brings out popcorn, thinking how funny it is to read about moaners that scream for God-mode buttons... ...Mah ship must turn on a dime. Insta-oneshott, tank borg queen lancewaeponz alone, heal everything at once 200%. At least...]
Are we speaking about escorts ?
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