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# 21
01-29-2013, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shagnastie View Post
?GBP130/$204/151euro Worth of dominion lock box's opened and not even 1 jam hadar ship
I fail to see how this is PWE's fault.

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Originally Posted by shagnastie View Post
I demand an explanation that is just ridiculous I know people who have opened 20 box's and got 2....

Just to give you an idea how many box's ive actually opened...

I currently have over 160 rich dilithium vain tickets...
The explanation is common sense... You spent $200.00 on a "chance". In the USA we call this an illness and have hotlines for people to call.

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Im not happy $204 is more than a years subscription to world of ******** also 2 thirds of a lifetime subscription to star trek online WTF...
And instead of buying a guaranteed lifetime sub, or a years sub to WOW, you take that money and instead gamble it away in a virtual environment knowing there was only a 0.02% chance to get a ship.
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# 22
01-29-2013, 01:38 AM
Shagnastie (lol great name) this is called gambling. It means that for a limited, usually small amount of money you have a chance to win a high value prize. The chance remains the same no matter how many times you gamble. You may win on the first try or you may never win.

If you want to be sure of gaining the ship then as others have told you can sell the keys and buy it. It will cost you more than if you win the ship on the first few tries but less than if you never win it at all.

I have played the lottery twice a week since it started and I have never won the top prize, I do not feel bitter, I understand it is a gamble. If a cap was placed on the amount you gambled then it would no longer be a gamble, it would be - you can by the X Ship for between $1 and $100 guaranteed, it would be more like a yo yo price structure that you may have seen on some websites.

Don't forget also that it is not actually gambling in the strictest sense because every time you get something for your money, DOFF packs, Lobi, and all the other items, there is just a small chance you may also get the ship.

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# 23
01-30-2013, 01:47 PM
With $200 you could have just sold 60 Master Keys and just bought a Jem ship off the Exchange. You would have essentially purchased it with money.

You don't get to gamble $X and then demand the same results as making a purchase with $X. That's not how it works.

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# 24
01-30-2013, 02:15 PM
They can't just sell it, CBS said no. As others have said above, a capped chance is no different from selling it. So they can't do that.

If I put a hundred dollars worth of quarters in a slot machine, and didn't win, I can't march up to the casino manager's office and demand a jackpot, it just doesn't work that way (and that's probably liable to get you whacked).

Sorry you didn't win.
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# 25
01-30-2013, 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shagnastie View Post
?GBP130/$204/151euro Worth of dominion lock box's opened and not even 1 jam hadar ship

I demand an explanation that is just ridiculous I know people who have opened 20 box's and got 2....

Just to give you an idea how many box's ive actually opened...

I currently have over 160 rich dilithium vain tickets...


Im not happy $204 is more than a years subscription to world of ******** also 2 thirds of a lifetime subscription to star trek online WTF...


(Also why are the forums incapable of showing the british pound symbol...)

You spent $200 and got nothing? LOL ! and you are upset, that is rich. Well, you know the old saying: " A fool and his money will play Cryptic's games."
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# 26
01-30-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by shagnastie View Post
$204 worth of dominion lock box's opened and not even 1 jam hadar ship
Do you know what you could have done with $204? You could have bought a mess of clothing, ships, and services, so that your gaming experience could go on indefinitely. When I put $200+ into purchasing zen, I bought nine clothing options (some containing multiple pieces), an account wide bank (with additional slots), three c-store ships, one fleet ship (four ship modules), one module for a future ship purchase, two more character slots, inventory slots, five respecs, more outfit slots, two rename tokens, one Borg bridge officer, one ship outfit, lock-box keys to be sold for ec, and dilithium for fleet projects.

...and, I am still sitting on 3,000 zen.

You didn't fail to obtain one ship. You failed to see the other possibilities, which could have come out of spending $200 on zen.

Last edited by linyive; 01-30-2013 at 08:42 PM.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 27
01-31-2013, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by linyive View Post
Do you know what you could have done with $204? You could have bought a mess of clothing, ships, and services, so that your gaming experience could go on indefinitely. When I put $200+ into purchasing zen, I bought nine clothing options (some containing multiple pieces), an account wide bank (with additional slots), three c-store ships, one fleet ship (four ship modules), one module for a future ship purchase, two more character slots, inventory slots, five respecs, more outfit slots, two rename tokens, one Borg bridge officer, one ship outfit, lock-box keys to be sold for ec, and dilithium for fleet projects.

...and, I am still sitting on 3,000 zen.

You didn't fail to obtain one ship. You failed to see the other possibilities, which could have come out of spending $200 on zen.
or... he could have spent $15.95 on this book http://www.amazon.com/Gambling-Addic.../dp/1569553424

oh and before you all start...yeah yeah yeah "not gambling" . If you say so.

then maybe pick up this for $23.18 http://www.amazon.com/Scammed-Better...to+get+scammed

if he had bought these he would still have $160 in his pocket.

Well, you know Cryptic's slogan "There is a su- er, player born every minute!"

Last edited by jengoz; 01-31-2013 at 06:46 AM.
Lt. Commander
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# 28
01-31-2013, 08:46 AM
If you've spent more than $50-$100, and still NOT obtained the ship in question, then the odds are too high for a non-physical reward, and thus, should be adjusted.
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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# 29
01-31-2013, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by f9thaceshigh View Post
They can't just sell it, CBS said no. As others have said above, a capped chance is no different from selling it. So they can't do that.

If I put a hundred dollars worth of quarters in a slot machine, and didn't win, I can't march up to the casino manager's office and demand a jackpot, it just doesn't work that way (and that's probably liable to get you whacked).

Sorry you didn't win.
First of all the mob hasent run casinos in decades so there is no getting whacked.

Second if you fill a slot machine its guaranteed to pay its top prizes as it can only hold so much

Next.
Ensign
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# 30
01-31-2013, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kpg1usa View Post
If you've spent more than $50-$100, and still NOT obtained the ship in question, then the odds are too high for a non-physical reward, and thus, should be adjusted.
Wow look at that someone who actually talks sense.
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