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# 61
02-01-2013, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by frontline2042 View Post
I would still like the source for this admission.
The T5 Ambassador class has three tactical consoles over the Galaxy's two, yet the Ambassador is classified as a "support cruiser" with a Lt. Cmdr science boff.

Tacit admission.
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# 62
02-01-2013, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fulleatherjacket View Post
The T5 Ambassador class has three tactical consoles over the Galaxy's two, yet the Ambassador is classified as a "support cruiser" with a Lt. Cmdr science boff.

Tacit admission.
I really think you're grasping at straws for this. "They changed the layout therefore they admit the old layout was crap". If there was a quote somewhere of a dev saying "we wanted the ambassador to be effective for dps so we gave it 3 tac consoles" or something to that effect i could see your point of 3 consoles being needed to be effective. But this argument seems like something from glenn becks chalkboard
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# 63
02-01-2013, 05:36 AM
Hrmmm, so I wouldn't say that Cryptic has tacitly said that you need 3 Tac consoles to be effective. I'd say they've blatantly said that the Exploration Cruiser is a Star Cruiser variant (an Eng variant to elaborate)...which should have been obvious - but maybe this will help point that out. You'll note that there's even a 3 Tac console version of the Odyssey - a Tactical variant. You go from the Odyssey Star Cruiser to the Odyssey Tactical Cruiser. Kind of like going from an Exploration Cruiser to a Dreadnought Cruiser, eh? Course, they could probably add a Fleet Dreadnought Cruiser...

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# 64
02-01-2013, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drudgy View Post
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dreadnought

The only one to appear on screen was the Galaxy Dreadnought, but several references have been made to them having 3 nacelles. Also a book written in the 80's called Dreadnought! details a 3 nacelled TOS era vessel.


The first Starfleet vessel with triple shielding if I remember correctly, and some type of projection system that made the ship appear in an entirely different place.

Saved by The Enterprise, which then did a victory roll as she passed overhead. (I always thought that scene was so Kirk perfect, I could see Sulu and Chekov grinning as they rolled her over.)

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/Dreadnought-St.../dp/0671038524 (Thank you Amazon.)

The half paragraph at the bottom of the ad should tell you its worth the $.01 for a used version..
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