Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,161
# 301
06-20-2013, 07:44 PM
It's funny how the most oftenly destroyed ship on screen of ALL Star Trek-dom is unquestionably, hands down, the best ship in the game. Fast, powerful, rugged, and the most maneuverable ship outside of KDF BOPs. Yet in actual Star Trek shows, bugships were destroyed by the handfuls every time they were shown in combat. When you saw them on screen, chances were, they were all destroyed in a matter of seconds.

Bugships in Star Trek made Dominion War era Mirandas look like Sovereigns in terms of ruggedness.

Yet in STO, they are the best ships to get.

The Bugship is a crutch. It makes less competent players really think they're better than they really are, and gives them a totally rude awakening when they try another ship. Even a fine ship like the Akiras. They no longer have the OP stats to prop them up. In the hands of a good player? It's a ridiculous ship.

Last edited by warmaker001b; 06-20-2013 at 07:47 PM.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,325
# 302
06-21-2013, 01:06 AM
Nice zombie raisin'
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 620
# 303
06-21-2013, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by warmaker001b View Post
It's funny how the most oftenly destroyed ship on screen of ALL Star Trek-dom is unquestionably, hands down, the best ship in the game. Fast, powerful, rugged, and the most maneuverable ship outside of KDF BOPs. Yet in actual Star Trek shows, bugships were destroyed by the handfuls every time they were shown in combat. When you saw them on screen, chances were, they were all destroyed in a matter of seconds.

Bugships in Star Trek made Dominion War era Mirandas look like Sovereigns in terms of ruggedness.

Yet in STO, they are the best ships to get.

The Bugship is a crutch. It makes less competent players really think they're better than they really are, and gives them a totally rude awakening when they try another ship. Even a fine ship like the Akiras. They no longer have the OP stats to prop them up. In the hands of a good player? It's a ridiculous ship.
It bugs you dont have one
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,161
# 304
06-21-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by captainedna View Post
It bugs you dont have one
I don't. So what else do you have to say about that crutch of yours?
Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 361
# 305
06-21-2013, 03:37 PM
the ship still sucks in 1vs1, 4 eng consoles and 1 sci, and afterall it is an esconoobort
it's not the ship or the build, it's the atitude

Last edited by borgresearcher; 06-21-2013 at 03:39 PM.
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,192
# 306
06-21-2013, 04:07 PM
The bug ship is great for general pew-pew, but it lacks access to high level cc's like gravity well, so it doesn't fare as well for PVE farming. I prefer my other trusted T5 ships like the Fleet Advanced, Mobius, and even the new Tal Shiar Destroyer for more profit-oriented roles

Yes, bugs are great for PVP, but I make the bulk of my EC's in fleet actions, where 1st place purple drops are far more consistent than picking up Kerrat scraps.

Last edited by shar487a; 06-21-2013 at 04:09 PM.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,268
# 307
06-21-2013, 04:19 PM
As escorts go (not comparing it to the Wells or escort-cruiser hybrids), the JHAS is the best. 2nd best might be the Fleet Patrol Escort or the MVAE. The JHAS hits harder, speed-tanks better (due to the .22 impulse mod that most people overlook), and self-tanks better than most escorts. In the hands of a highly skilled player, a JHAS can be a very difficult opponent. I've seen a JHAS flown by the likes of Strike worked over by 3-4 other escorts and manage to survive/take 2-3 guys down before finally dying.

I would LIKE to see it nerfed slightly, at least in the impulse modifier and maybe a point less in turnrate. . .but that's not likely. Cryptic has a ton of monetary potential in the JHAS (because it's basically 'OP'), so they're not gonna kill that golden goose.

I will agree, though, that there are other similarly 'overpowered' ships. The Wells is bloody ridiculous, especially in the hands of a skilled engineering captain.

I think the more realistic approach is that Cryptic should do a balance pass on all ships, especially some of the C-store ships that cost 2000-2500 zen. Buffing BoPs somewhat would be great (give them the same impulse mod as the JHAS, for example, and boost the effects of the battlecloak somehow). Making raptors actually competitive with Federation escorts in PvP would be nice.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 39
# 308
06-22-2013, 07:25 AM
Bug ship is an another p2w ship what fills its purpose. nothing more. standard STO business. Since STO is not canon, dunno why it has star trek in its name, if someone telling that bugship should be the weakest. Sure it should be, but this is not star trek. if its about pvp unballance, then wtf is ballanced in this game? Nothing, and never will.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 39
# 309
06-22-2013, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by timezarg View Post
As escorts go (not comparing it to the Wells or escort-cruiser hybrids), the JHAS is the best. 2nd best might be the Fleet Patrol Escort or the MVAE. The JHAS hits harder, speed-tanks better (due to the .22 impulse mod that most people overlook), and self-tanks better than most escorts. In the hands of a highly skilled player, a JHAS can be a very difficult opponent. I've seen a JHAS flown by the likes of Strike worked over by 3-4 other escorts and manage to survive/take 2-3 guys down before finally dying.

I would LIKE to see it nerfed slightly, at least in the impulse modifier and maybe a point less in turnrate. . .but that's not likely. Cryptic has a ton of monetary potential in the JHAS (because it's basically 'OP'), so they're not gonna kill that golden goose.

I will agree, though, that there are other similarly 'overpowered' ships. The Wells is bloody ridiculous, especially in the hands of a skilled engineering captain.

I think the more realistic approach is that Cryptic should do a balance pass on all ships, especially some of the C-store ships that cost 2000-2500 zen. Buffing BoPs somewhat would be great (give them the same impulse mod as the JHAS, for example, and boost the effects of the battlecloak somehow). Making raptors actually competitive with Federation escorts in PvP would be nice.
Buff my Mogai, i paid for it. OP is the skill in this mmorpg. get OP crap and youre skilled.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 620
# 310
06-22-2013, 07:34 AM
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ mammy banned me from exchange so I can't buy a bug ship from it and make myself look stupid when a sci ship kills me QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
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