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# 11
02-06-2013, 06:09 AM
If there was a top 3 escorts(officially)

The steam runner would be third I don't even own one and I can see this everyone knows this

Clearly the guy who thinks it isn't doesn't understand sto
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# 12
02-06-2013, 10:37 AM
... No.... just.... no.... this is all god awful... talk about a professional troll... (sigh)

Third? Behind what and what?

Lets see. Top tier Escorts in this game.

1) JHAS.
2) Fleet Patrol Escort
3) Chimera
4) Mirror/Patrol Escort

It's not knocking any of those off the top tier.

Sooooo where exactly in this list does the Steam Runner Fit? It is no where near The MVAE, The Defiant, the so on and so forth soooo where exactly does the Hull Tanker go in your estimation?

To obtain this 'Thing' You need to buy a starter pack from Steam and it's in there. One that levels with you and the VA version. It's only redeeming quality is the Team Fortress console beyond that it is just god awful. Nothing, nothing, in this game can expect a full and fruitful life using it's weakest component, it's hull, to tank high dps from the elites and pvp. in normal pve it's prolly ok at best. So where you are getting this idea that it's even close to the top 10 is odd.

Last edited by lasonio; 02-06-2013 at 10:40 AM.
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# 13
02-06-2013, 10:59 AM
Dismissing the Steamrunner is a mistake, very capable ship, as is the Fleet saber. I guess I kind of like it that the "experts" dismiss both of these. More variety is good, in my opinion. There are plenty of great builds out there for both. If interested, check the PVP ship build threads. Any of those can be highly effective in the PVE realm.
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# 14
02-06-2013, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lasonio View Post
I just wanted to clear up that misconception since it seems that no on else in this thread would do it. We can't have new players reading this and assuming that the near perfect escort is a dud because people misconstrue the Patrol Escort for the Blockade Runner
This may be the case ... for you, but PVP boot camp instructors say otherwise. The Steam Runner is in fact one of the top DPS Escorts at the moment with a proper build. It doesnt beat out the bug ship or even the temp destroyer but I would say its in third place otherwise.

Its hull is actually higher than the Fleet Defiants btw.
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# 15
02-06-2013, 11:21 AM
Steamrunner having engineering boff slots is a high plus, not an disadvantage. Those slots does not mean it is only defensive, but it can be offensive as well.
Emergency Power to Weapons.
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Eject Warp PLasma (very excellent offensive crowd control/AOE damage)
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# 16
02-06-2013, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by unangbangkay View Post
Even without Aux2Batt (expensive to implement due to Technician doff costs),
Cheap but grindy way to get the Technician doffs: run the B'Tran Nebula colonization chain. Then run the Support repeatable there as often as you can, maximizing your crit chance. You get Liberated Borg Caitian Technicians from there, and their traits match up well enough with Support's crit chance traits, so you can use your first and second to help grab your third if you don't have many good doffs for it otherwise.

Last edited by mandoknight89; 02-06-2013 at 11:36 AM.
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# 17
02-06-2013, 11:56 AM
I'll personally swear by the Fleet Patrol Escort. There is no way of making her cost less than 4 FSMs, but she is worth every EC you spend on her. She is currently the tankiest easy to get escort in the game (I believe the only ships that out-do her HP wise are the JAS and JHEC), she has the PERFECT BOff layout for a full cannon build (no annoying 3rd ensign), AND she has a uni ensign to either enhance your engineering or science abilities. Add on to that her 4 engineering consoles, she can be one TOUGH mother for anything to have to fight. Her only weakness is her somewhat larger than usual visual sprite, which makes her turn slightly slower in game, and her lack of a 5th tac console, making her damage output slightly less than a JAS, FTER, and FAER.

I have as of yet to try a fleet defiant, but I am sure once I do (didn't have time to take her out of dry-dock last night) I will probably recommend that ship as well.
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# 18
02-06-2013, 01:29 PM
The Jhec? Meh? but lord knows that FPE is worth it and if you have the mirror escort skin to go top of it, it is gorgeous.
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# 19
02-06-2013, 01:42 PM
Engineering slots are an advantage not a disadvantage the chimera is not an escort its a heavy destroyer

JHAS superior to everything at every job

Temporal destroyer second only to the JHAS in dps and survivability

Steam runner superior survivability with massive dps no useless ensign tac

Patrol escort great all rounder

Defiant here because of stoopid Boff layout
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# 20
02-06-2013, 01:46 PM
You know, I signed up for a Klingon Character the other day and to my utter amazement my first ship assigned as the basic model was a BoP with ALL UNIVERSAL Bridge officer layouts and a Battle Cloak!

I found myself thinking, why the hell can't more ships (i.e. The Defiant) be equipped this way? The Mobius is pretty close to this admittedly (bar battle cloak obviously)
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