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Lt. Commander
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# 21
02-06-2013, 05:25 PM
Farscape frells the hazmata out of them both and stuffs their mivvonks down their throats.

That said...

I never really enjoyed Star Wars. The only thing it ever had going for it, in my mind, is a bigger budget in the makeup/puppet department, and recent advances in CGFX technology have levelled the playing field in that area.

I don't think that many people on this forum are going to disagree with the OP's premise, though they might take issue with some items on the list - I know I do. My list would be something more like:

10. George Lucas had nothing to do with Star Trek.

9. No touchy-feely space wizards.

8. There are episodes of Star Trek which raise interesting philosophical and social issues, and really make you think. Star Wars was only ever about being entertaining (and if you want that, watch Farscape!)

7. There's no incestuous subtext in any episode of Trek that I've ever seen, but if Han Solo wasn't around, you can bet that Luke and Leia would have hooked up.

6. George Lucas had nothing to do with Star Trek.

5. http://www.beertripper.com/startrek_..._Kahn_kiss.jpg

4. T'Pol's bum.

3. Trek had the first interracial kiss ever featured on television, a bold move that sidestepped the censors of the day and called into question America and the Western world's outdated and latent racism. Star Wars had Jar-Jar Binks.

2. George Lucas had nothing to do with Star Trek.

1. Tribbles > Ewoks.
Captain
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# 22
02-06-2013, 06:12 PM
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3. Trek had the first interracial kiss ever featured on television, a bold move that sidestepped the censors of the day and called into question America and the Western world's outdated and latent racism. Star Wars had Jar-Jar Binks.
Trek also had Wesley, though.
Please stop exponential holding/reputation costs!
Captain
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# 23
02-06-2013, 06:16 PM
I love to hate on Star Wars as much as the next guy, but I feel it must be said that the Original three moves are the best film Trilogy of all time. The moments, the special effects, the quotes, we all know and could recognize pretty much every frame at a glance. Those three films are a testament to what can be done when you're doing something no one has done before. Credit where it's due, Star Wars has the best Trilogy ever made.

But Star Trek is still the greatest Franchise ever made.

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Trek also had Wesley, though.
This moment made up for that though.
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HI HO, HI HO. OFF DUTY SLOT NEEDS TO GO!

"It's better to ask a dumb question, than to remain an idiot forever."

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Lt. Commander
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# 24
02-06-2013, 06:32 PM
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Credit where it's due, Star Wars has the best Trilogy ever made.
Dollars trilogy > Star Wars trilogy in my opinion. Also, I'm sure many would argue that The Godfather I and II more than make up for part III.
Career Officer
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# 25
02-06-2013, 06:57 PM
I am not sure I can come up with ten , but I wish to elaborate on the typo in the thread title, because it's fun.

10 reasons why STARK Trek is better than Star Wars

1. Army of Iron Mans vs. Army of StormTroopers. (Advantage : Stark Trek)

2. Stark Trek's Ally #1 : Genetic Super Soldier. Captain America
Star Wars Ally #1 : Luke Skywalker
Personal Preference and a geek argument to have fun with.
Luke and his saber vs. cap and his shield ... who wins.
(Advantage : Even)

3. Stark Trek's Ally #2 : Billionaire, Philanthropist, Genius, Playboy. Iron Man.
Star Wars Ally # 2 : Han Solo
Han would shoot first.
(Advantage : Star Wars)

4. Stark Trek Ally #3 : Superspy, Martial Artist, Weapons Expert. Black Widow
Star Wars Ally #3 : Senator. Noble. Reluctant Warrior. Insurgent. Pricess Leia.
(Advantage : Stark Trek)

5. Stark Trek Ally #4 : Expert Marksman, Uses a Bow and Arrows ?
Star Wars Ally #4 : Wise, Master of an Ancient Order of Knights. Ben Kenobi.
"I can deflect Blaster Bolts with this magic glowing energy sword."
"I shoot arrows ... fast."
(Advantage : Star wars)

6. Stark Trek Ally #5 : The literal Norse God of Thunder. Thor.
Star Wars Ally #5 : Two Quirky Droids ! R2 and 3P0
(Advantage : Stark)

7. Stark Trek ally #5 : Rage Monster.
Star Wars Ally #5 : Wookie
(Advantage : Stark)

8. Imagine Tony Stark , Chief Engineer
Imagine The Hulk, Gamorrean Guard
(Advantage : Stark)

9. Stark Trek : Supposed Super Effective Military force : S.H.I.E.L.D.
Star Wars : Supposed Super Effective Military force : The Empire
(Advantage : Stark)

10. Nick Fury vs. Mace Windu ?
Lt. Commander
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# 26
02-06-2013, 06:57 PM
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Trek also had Wesley, though.
True, Wesley Crusher was a horrible writing decision, and should have been killed off rather than made immortal (I mean, seriously? Now future generations are going to be subjected to him too? Way to go, supposedly godlike aliens.). I do agree with centersolace, of course - "Shut up, Wesley." was one of the greatest lines in Trek history.

My original point in comparing the Kirk-Ohura kiss to Jar-Jar Binks is that Trek helped to define social equality nearly a half-century ago, while Star Wars annoyed the African-American community with a clumsy stereotype (accidental or not) as late as 1999.
Ensign
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# 27
02-06-2013, 07:32 PM
So, what is this, a battle for second place?

Babylon 5 blows them both out of the water... um, sky... errr, galaxy?

Best. Series. Ever.

Lieutenant
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# 28
02-06-2013, 07:57 PM
Given I am a fan of both sides.

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Think up reasons why! my 10 are:

10. Darth Vader has only one sphere, the Death Star. The Borg have thousands upon thousands of spheres AND cubes. (Geometric shapes seem to be a favorite among villans...)

The Death Star has thousands of weapon systems and hundreds of support ships, it can handle itself.

9. Those light sabers are kinda primative compared to phasers. Why have a sword when you can have a gun?

Lightsabers could probably deflect phaser or disruptor shots, also Blasters

8. Star Trek has five series and a lot more movies.

Thats not really a reason. SW until recently was focusing mainly on films with one or two exceptions

7. The Federation vs. The Force. Idiot Vader wouldn't have a chance!

Galactic Empire vs The Federation. Money is on the Empire

6. Star Trek's technology is much more advanced. What's so bad about transporters saving you life, anyway?

Trek only has a edge in transporters to begin with, however Hyperdrive is more advanced then Warp Drive. This case its situational

5. The graphics in Voyager alone are just as good as those in the re-made version of Star Wars.

Not really a valid reason. A Show from the mid 90's vs movies from 1999+... not much point there.

4. Vulcans, Carrdasions, Klingons, Romulans, Remons, Jem Hadar (I could go on like forever)

As others said.. I believe Star Wars have more races to go through

3. DOMINION!!!!!!!

Let me list some. Galactic Empire, Galactic Republic, Sith Empire, Yuuzhan Vong

2. There is more than one way to get around...from star ships to shuttles to transporters...from warp to transwarp to slip stream...

SW has Shuttles... and Hyperdrive is faster then anything in Trek.. even Slipstream takes years to cross the galaxy.. Hyperdrive takes at the most weeks based on the drive model.

And the Number One Reason Why Star Trek is Better Than Star Wars:

"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the-"


We are the Borg. Resistance as you know it is over. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile.


I am Vader of Borg, resistance, is futile.
Entire Imperial Starfleet, The Sun Crusher, The Death Star(s), The Galaxy Gun.. ..


Honestly this argument is old as time itself but its all based on x-factors and knowledge of both sides.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 29
02-06-2013, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by centersolace View Post
The only thing I like about Star Wars more than Star Trek?

No Time Travel.
The extended universe novel Crosscurrent respectfully disagrees.


I'm very fond of both universes, since I pretty much grew up with both.
Captain
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# 30
02-06-2013, 08:22 PM
Top 10 reasons why Star Trek is better than Star Wars:

10. Better Droids.
09. Sisko doesn't find your lack of faith disturbing.
08. More accurate bad guys.
07. No midi-chlorians.
06. The musicians know more than one song.
05. Mudd's Women.
04. Jadzia actually kisses the wookie.
03. Wesley Crusher dies.
02. Ships that small do have a cloaking device.

And the number one reason why Star Trek is better than Star Wars:

01. The Enterprise doesn't have that Governor Tarkin smell.
All cloaks should be canon.

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