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Lt. Commander
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# 61
02-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
Super laser not laser, and it destroys planets and is encased in a moon sized battlestation that has an engine that enables it to travel across the whole galaxy faster than it would take a Fed ship to travel across a bit of a quadrant, oh and armour and shielding that means an entire Rebel Fleet couldn't take it out.

(Unless the commander was a moron with an external shield)

Yup primitive
Oh my goodness! every time a topicc like this has been made there is always some noob (you) that trys there very best to defend star wars!
Lt. Commander
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# 62
02-07-2013, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dma1986 View Post
One thing I have noticed throughout the SW vs ST debates I've been involved in (both on Trek forums, Wars forums, and neutral forums) is that the people that are fans of both franchises tend to make good points, fans exclusively of Wars make sensible points but can concede some parts of Trek are better, and fans of ST make points such as:







So yeah... I think Wars wins in a "whose fans can debate better?" debate.
Yawn. noob
Lt. Commander
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# 63
02-07-2013, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by artan42 View Post
In ROTS you can see the spent shells from the turbolasers on the gundecks.
From what I can tell from the EU the turbolasers, and by extension most capital ship weapons, are explosive shells wrapped in energy to propel them at their target.

I think the ion canon however is energy so the Borg could adapt to it after a few shots, though reasonably it could instantly disable any cube it hits, the bigger question is can you remodulate a ion cannon?
Shells are old school baby, do phasers leave a large wastfull mess behind?
Lt. Commander
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# 64
02-07-2013, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dma1986 View Post
Turbolasers are energy weapons, basically massively scaled-up blaster pistols.

It'd be interesting to see how well a Borg Cube could cope with a full volley from the Ion cannons, though. Glorified cyborgs being hit by ionised particles that fuse joints and cause short circuits... can't see it ending well for them.
Even if they manage to destroy a cube or two, the Borg ADAPT to weapons of any power, its just a matter of time, now if the death star was equipped with a Bio Phaser, or tech 50yrs more advanced than what the Borg (or Starfleet) use, (for star wars it would be like 100,000,000,000yrs) that would be different.
Lt. Commander
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# 65
02-07-2013, 05:06 PM
Ok, listen everyone, I'm so very sorry for calling you names and being mean, t's just when it comes to topics like this (which I probably should not have made) I get really mad, this may be a Star Trek site, but that dose'nt mean that people can't like star wars better, I truly am sorry, but when it comes down to it, Star Trek still have a big edge against star wars, just think of the creativity between the two, star wars: lazers, blasters, hyperdrive, death star, I just see that as somthing a three year old made up, another backup for the story line in star wars being lame, it's basicly good vs bad, while in Star Trek you never really know whats going to happen next (except in DS9 it was basicly a high tech war) i have also noticed that in star wars the three films don't have very good quality, even in TOS while the grafics were really bad the quallity of the shows was amazing for it's time.
Lt. Commander
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# 66
02-07-2013, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by collegepark2151 View Post
Well Kirk and Spock used flip phones and TNG and DS9 used Ipads. Yes there were some crazy made up things but most of the things were at least plausible given enough advancement. No, it wasn't Issac Asimov style diamond hard sci-fi, but most things were at least partially based in reality.
Except for the dozens of Negative Space Wedgie and Swirly Energy Thingie plots, which could only be solved through Techno Babble.

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8) Not black and white

SW is pretty much bad guys VS good guys. In ST however it isn't always as clear cut, most times it is a grey area with no clear right answers or course of action.
Although I agree Star Wars is your basic good versus evil story, Trek tends to be preachy. Episodes usually pose an ethical dilemma, which is resolved by the captain at the end of the episode. You can always count on Picard to explain the right choice.

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Originally Posted by stodatapiocard View Post
big round ball that shoots a primative LASER? How can they get any less origanal.
Who cares, really. It's a highly focused energy beam. Call it a laser, phaser or deadly super duper death ray of death, it's all the same thing.
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# 67
02-07-2013, 06:04 PM
It does not matter what's better



Listen to George Takei when it comes to Star Wars Vs. Star Trek....you know he's right. Oh my.

The Horror The Horror...

Paid for by the down with Bajor Party

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Captain
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# 68
02-07-2013, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by neoakiraii View Post
Listen to George Takei when it comes to Star Wars Vs. Star Trek....you know he's right. Oh my.

The Horror The Horror...
George Takei deserves to be president of the world, but he's too smart to do it.
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o633/centersolace/189cux9khvl6ojpg_zpsca7ccff0.jpg

So inhumane superweapons, mass murder, and canon nonsense is okay, but speedos are too much for some people.
Lt. Commander
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# 69
02-07-2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by evendzhar View Post
Except for the dozens of Negative Space Wedgie and Swirly Energy Thingie plots, which could only be solved through Techno Babble.
It was pretty much a joke as time went on. Any issue was solved with using antiproton/reversethepolarity/ super magic particles in TNG.


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Although I agree Star Wars is your basic good versus evil story, Trek tends to be preachy. Episodes usually pose an ethical dilemma, which is resolved by the captain at the end of the episode. You can always count on Picard to explain the right choice.
While theres nothing wrong with a moral to a story, this is one of the things I hated about TNG in particular. I know this will really make some posters unhappy, but the whole "humaniy bhas evolved into this perfect society" irked me. It makes bad draa, and they didn't even live up to it in the writing. Corrupt admirals, and all. The most interesting heroes are the ones that have flaws. This is where, IMHO TNG is weak. In trek shows and even ENT had characters that were more engaging. Again thats my opinion.
Captain
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# 70
02-07-2013, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by centersolace View Post
The only thing I like about Star Wars more than Star Trek?

No Time Travel.
Lets see human beings with advanced technology have settled in a distant galaxy in the distant past. Yup no time travel here
Play more STO Foundry! (You can thank me later.)

A TIME TO SEARCH: ENTER MY FOUNDRY MISSION at the RISA SYSTEM in the SIRIUS SECTOR

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