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# 1 Orion Toons
09-01-2013, 06:18 AM
I was playing my Orion Character today and I was running around the first city when I noticed something interesting. None of the other Orion's players running around were male. Now I play a female Orion female myself so whatever, but as I thought about it, I don't recall ever having seen male orion in game who wasn't an npc or someones bridge officer.

Anyone else find this little statistic just a little bit telling. lol
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# 2
09-01-2013, 06:38 AM
Think Ive seen 1 orion male... ( I have a female orion too =) )
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# 3
09-01-2013, 06:48 AM
I find it even more telling that, in any given location with KDF players, the majority are Orion females.

Some scoff at me when I state the obvious: the Klingon Empire has come under Orion control. I make this assertion not only because of the apparent greater numbers of players of Orions, but also (and more relevantly) due to the STO storyline and information from canon. I have explained at length in the past:

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But fwiw, I wouldn't worry too much about being allied with the Klingons:

For the year 2394, "The Path to 2409" says:

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Chancellor J'mpok of the Klingon High Council moves to cement his position by launch the negotiations with Melani D'ian of the Orion Syndicate into high gear.

"Martok was interested in the secrets she claimed to offer, but he knew that any agreement with the Syndicate would be difficult," said Tag Morkek, a political analyst for the Tellar News Service who specializes in Klingon affairs. "The Emerald Empress is slippery. Melani's idea of 'truth' can change from minute to minute.

"Still, J'mpok's House is weak. He's going to need support if he wants to stay in power." Federation informants inside the Klingon Empire say that the House of J'mpok, which is one of the smallest of the Great Houses, is being pressured by the House of Martok and its allies. J'mpok's rapid rise to the Chancellorship has improved the House's prospects, but it lacks resources and ships and its lands in the Pheben system are poor.

"The only thing keeping the House of Martok from declaring open war is Drax," said one anonymous source. "Once he recovers from his wounds, it's only a matter of time." When that happens, however, J'mpok may have the Orion Syndicate fighting at his side. On Stardate 71283.12, Melani D'ian meets J'mpok in person on Ter'jas Mor. After four days of negotiations, the two agree to sign a non-aggression and mutual defense pact.

In exchange for the Syndicate's allegiance, the Klingon Empire will provide them with ships and weapons. In addition, Melani D'ian further agreed to share technology and information with the Klingons in exchange for a planet in Klingon space that the Orions can rule as a vassal state.

"Having access to the Syndicate information network could be a huge advantage for the Empire," Tag said. "Klingon Intelligence is good, but they're not everywhere like the Syndicate is."

The Federation Council condemns the new alliance as support for criminals, and Starfleet Command vows to continue pursuing and shutting down Syndicate operations in Federation space. "There's nothing in the Khitomer Accords that say we need to stand by and let allies of the Klingons sell illegal substances, raid our commercial transports and traffic in restricted technology."

In fact, reviews of Starfleet reports show that Syndicate traffic has increased significantly since Melani D'ian seized control.

Melani has ruthlessly purged anyone she deems "untrustworthy," and fused the remaining Orions into a unified organization that answers to her alone.

"She's dangerous," admitted Admiral Jorel Quinn on an episode of the Federation News Service program Illuminating the City of Light. "Before, the Syndicate was controllable because there were multiple leaders competing for influence and power. Now Starfleet Command has to dedicate more resources to keeping them in check."

As a gift to celebrate their new alliance, Melani sends 1,500 Orion women to be servants in the Great Houses on Qo'noS.

Melani herself settles into an estate on Ter'jas Mor, and the remaining Orions still on the Orion homeworld make plans to emigrate by the end of 2394.
What is important to note in this plethora of information is this bit:

"As a gift to celebrate their new alliance, Melani sends 1,500 Orion women to be servants in the Great Houses on Qo'noS."

This is important to note due to the following CANONICAL information:


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In 2154 some Enterprise crewmembers wound up as commodities themselves at a processing station on Verex III. When Captain Archer expressed surprise that the Orions would sell their own kind, Arik Soong told him the females were "known for their extreme appetites, their innate skills". The Verex market's Orion slaver had even sold his last wife. (ENT: "Borderland")

Later that year the secret of the Orion slave girls' irresistiblity was discovered when the slave sisters Navaar, D'Nesh, and Maras were presented to Captain Archer, ostensibly to improve relations between Earth and the Orions. Their presence became a major distraction to the crew of the Enterprise due ? it turned out ? to the powerful pheromones which they were releasing. It was revealed that Orion females were not enslaved at all, but rather the enslavers, and the sisters were active agents in a plot to capture the Enterprise for their Syndicate. (ENT: "Bound")
-- Source

The information I have presented really should result in an inescapable conclusion (if one is capable of Logic, and no, I don't mean Vulcan non-violent/anti-emotion mysticism) and really should be obvious enough as to not require me to state the ONLY logical conclusion to be derived from the information: the Klingon Empire is now under the control of the Orions.

Who doesn't like Orions? Okay, maybe some Boy Scout types in the Federation's Starfleet, but when has anyone ever paid any attention to them?

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# 4
09-01-2013, 06:48 AM
My KDF main is a tactical Orion male.
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# 5
09-01-2013, 07:03 AM
The Orion Male has a melee offensive attribute.
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# 6
09-01-2013, 07:08 AM
I've seen a few male Orions around. Rare, but they're out there. I finally saw one in a full KHG outfit (sans helmet) and it was pretty cool. I thought for a while about rolling a male Orion, but went with Gorn instead.

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# 7
09-01-2013, 07:20 AM
Of course there are less Orion males, Orion women are mostly holding them back from joining the KDF.
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# 8
09-01-2013, 07:30 AM
Surprised?

First: know that the majority of the players is male.
Know comes the answer, for which I'll requote somebody in the game.

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It's more fun for me to run around watching a girl's ass than watching a guy.
There's your answer.
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# 9
09-01-2013, 09:53 AM
I play an Orion Male. I do how ever have 6 Orion Female bridge officers or as I like to call them my harem.

On a more serious note I'm male, but when I see female Orions I assume most, but not all are being played by men, which is cool its always good to walk a mile in some one elses shoes.

When I see the rare Male Orion I assume its probably a female player whose tired of being bugged by dudes. I Myself am obviously an exception to this rule.

He still has the seduce trait. I figure producing more powerful pheromones is like lactation in males, its rare, but does occur.

And I agree, the Orions does control the empire completely, but thier influence is growing by leaps and bounds, and I also agree that thier influence is strongest on the house of Jempok who depends on thier support, but no doubt the Synidicate has done favours and aligned operatives with each of the Great Houses including the House of Martok.

So while the Gorn have a not voting seat on the high council, the Syndicate no doubt has massive influence and may control several or more Great Houses, which have voting seats on the high council.

Also I have a feeling the reason King Slithris wasn't executed in normal Klingon tradition of killing governement leaders is the influence of the Orion Syndicate, which King Slathris now owes a major favour too.
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# 10
09-01-2013, 10:03 AM
Are you really surprised by that? The majority of players are young males that like to see half naked females. Many people also "bleach" their orion females to look like humans, so, yeah no surprise here

btw: My Klingon toon commands a orion-free vessel Boff and Doff wise and any orion doffs I get are executed the moment they step on my Vor'cha
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