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# 11
02-08-2013, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dalnar83 View Post
The rumour is, the devs actually play the game and even build their own starbase
Lies!

But seriously: The chat tab / team channel bug that got introduced with S4(?) still has not been adressed. This tells me that the devs don't play this game to any relevant extent.

(And that's just the harmless stuff. The recent attempt to pull a "it's a UI issue" on us after almost a year of FAW being acc bugged was bewildering.)
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# 12
02-08-2013, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mancom View Post
Lies!

But seriously: The chat tab / team channel bug that got introduced with S4(?) still has not been adressed. This tells me that the devs don't play this game to any relevant extent.

(And that's just the harmless stuff. The recent attempt to pull a "it's a UI issue" on us after almost a year of FAW being acc bugged was bewildering.)
Nothing beats the cloak is working as intended bug, still cracks me up


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Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 13
02-08-2013, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by disposeableh3r0 View Post
I'll do it for 11$/hr
i'll do it for 10.95 =)
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# 14
02-08-2013, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mancom View Post
I propose that Cryptic hire someone whose job it is to play the game 6h a day and report to the relevant people at cryptic / write bug reports the remaining 2h of the 8h workday....
Great post - I agree 110%! ^^
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# 15
02-08-2013, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
but seriously though, if the systems team had one of us hard core pvp'ers on it, it would make such a difference for ability ballence
Good idea!

Maybe have a PVP focus group, too?

Judging from the game experience and until I am proven other-wise, the devs appear to not have any PVP experience. WoW BGs do not count.

If they were serious about PVP in STO, I would jump at the chance to help shape it.
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# 16
02-08-2013, 03:16 AM
Well improvements over this idea :

-2 players at least : one for federation side and one for kdf side .
(I pinpoint again the impartiality which is very important in my opinion in such job)

-11 $/hr is too much if we take in account that in some parts of the world people work for much less so it would be easy to find 2 people to work for this rate taking in account that being an employee would give free access to all ships/gear/etc in game to such player.

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About developers playing the game I think that in Red Alert channel one of them confirmed that they do actually play the game and are building a base.
(I wonder if that has anything to do that jhas is so OP ? ) )
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# 17
02-08-2013, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dova25 View Post
About developers playing the game I think that in Red Alert channel one of them confirmed that they do actually play the game and are building a base.
(I wonder if that has anything to do that jhas is so OP ? ) )
you dont actually need to play the game to build a base..... -_-

and anything you need to play in the game has no direct impact on building abase since all of the pvp in this game has nothing to do with fleets apparently.

sure itll give dilithium from time to time, but the amount of effort to get that dilithium compiared to pve means is way out of line.
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Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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# 18
02-08-2013, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mancom View Post
I propose that Cryptic hire someone whose job it is to play the game 6h a day and report to the relevant people at cryptic / write bug reports the remaining 2h of the 8h workday.
Way ahead of you.

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PvP sucks, the ships been nerfed, shields are crap, players are revolting over no Romulan faction, DSN chat is out of control.....again, the KDF consoles are to red, server kick being passed off as a feature isn't working with the angry mobs, I had trouble sleeping last night, my hiatal hernia is acting up, the ship is drafty and damp, I complain but nobody listens........

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# 19
02-08-2013, 07:22 AM
I make about $50 an hour running a 22 million dollar a year business. I employ 122 people.

I would gladly take a small pay cut and move to head up a department that would test this game and most likely have an incredible impact. I know the majority of the current pvprs in the game, and could recruit a bunch of them fairly quickly I imagine. They could work from home.

Also, video game testers make more that $11 an hour. It should be about $15.

If a dev is reading this, send a mail to @CaptainHorizon if you are interested. I have no experience creating games, but I can play anything and tell you if that **** is broken or not, and how to read the environment to fix it. It's what I do.

Have fun kill bad guys

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# 20
02-08-2013, 09:09 AM
I have half jokingly suggested a kickstarter for similar things. I would contribute.

I'll say that I don't know anything about coding games or development. But, I don't know that it's fair to be so hard on devs for not personally playing.

There was a Seinfeld episode where Elaine was dating a gynecologist. He was talking about how it couldn't be a good idea because of how people get tired of work. "You know if you're a short order cook and at the end of the day you say 'If I see one more hamburger I'm going to lose my mind.'"

I've done martial arts since age 10 and it's been a passion of mine. For a few years I taught it full time and although it was rewarding I got bone-tired of certain things and it really impacted that passion.

What I'm saying is, Hilbert is right on that they need a lackey. They can't be expected to bring the same level of passion to the game when it's their job. We're concerned about balance, fairness, fun, competitive atmosphere, etc. It's awesome that bort can even come around to discuss this stuff. But some days he's going to get bone-tired too.

I don't doubt that bort and the rest love this game, but when I was teaching martial arts I also got bogged down in interpersonal issues with my instructors, parents, behavior, enrollment, getting the kid who just sneezed into his hands to go wash them before I tell him to hip toss some other kid... I never fought. I barely worked out. But I was just as drained as if I had.

We want a competitive, brilliant atmosphere because we have passion for this game, and we get to enjoy it primarily as a game. bort and the rest have to, at some point, be ok if it's functional, profitable, and reasonably exploit free. That's why it's a good idea to pay somebody to play who can worry about just that, playing, and point out issues without having them tied in their own head to the implications they hold for coding, staffing, etc.
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