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# 301
08-29-2013, 04:05 PM
Well there are a very few people that care about the state of Ground PvP, you can count them (us) with just 1 hand and sadly this is related to the quantity of people playing Ground in general, not just PvP.

Folks love to do Space and the vast majority of them don't even touch Ground, ergo, you have more people doing Space PvP and caring about it.

For Ground if it's not something that kills you faster (like the last DOFF) then it's not a problem for most of the folks.
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Commander
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# 302
08-29-2013, 04:43 PM
Hmm maybe more than one hand! . In any case, I think things like the security officer DoT doff and cryo immobilizer being introduced have turned some people off to ground even more so than sword knock back chaining. I'd be very surprised if either the DoT doffs or cryo immobilizer will be changed. I'm still curious why such a drastic change to only swords went live way back in S7 (I think) without patch notes or anything.
Lieutenant
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# 303
08-31-2013, 08:35 AM
I solved my ground pvp concerns by.. venturing into the cold depths of space!

But really, what nulonu mentioned.. cryo immobilizer and broken knockback especially were the reasons. I really, really enjoy pugging but with knockback the way it is at the moment... it's just not worth the effort really. So now instead of being a ground pvper exclusively, I have decided pvp among the stars is mostly where it's at for me atm.
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# 304
08-31-2013, 09:21 AM
Ground PVP with broken knockback = dead ground PVP.

The worst thing, is what I said before, and is not the fact that cryptic looks like to dont even care to reed this post anymore, but the worst thing is when premades of Ground PVP fleets exploit this bugs against pugs.

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# 305
08-31-2013, 10:34 PM
I am one of the ones that cares about the state of ground pvp. I think with the new doffs and how willpower is or isn't effecting certain things is just how it is at the moment. I think this makes teamwork that much more important. There are always going to be things that do not work like we think they should. It all comes down to trying to do the best you can with the mechanics the way they are during that season.
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# 306
09-06-2013, 05:15 PM
Still wondering why swords are the only melee with an exploit attack secondary with unresistable knock back that the other melee weapons require a successful combo to achieve. Pretty sure all melee weapons had expose/expose for primary/secondary attacks prior to S7. A rather glaring inconsistency IMO.
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# 307
09-06-2013, 05:37 PM
Is there a discussion thread for Ground PVP, i have some ideas, but I am not sure they compare to those stated. I also do not pvp, but my ideas are reasons why i don't.
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Captain
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# 308
09-07-2013, 02:25 PM
Feel free to start a new thread.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 118
# 309
09-08-2013, 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nulonu View Post
Hmm maybe more than one hand! . In any case, I think things like the security officer DoT doff and cryo immobilizer being introduced have turned some people off to ground even more so than sword knock back chaining. I'd be very surprised if either the DoT doffs or cryo immobilizer will be changed. I'm still curious why such a drastic change to only swords went live way back in S7 (I think) without patch notes or anything.
To sell more of those Tholian swords from the lobi store. Same reason that Elachi lobi store weapon was purposely released broken at first that allowed as player to fire under stealth module. I only heard about it and laughed as I thought how much I am glad I quit ground pvp. While space is not much better off at least it is serviceable under the right build and level of grind to me. If not there would be no reason at all for me to play this game anymore!
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# 310
09-20-2013, 03:36 PM
New tribble patch with a few tweaks for ground, still nothing about knockback

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=859131
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