Rihannsu
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# 241
08-15-2013, 01:34 AM
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Did you not pay attention to the storyline?
i don't know if he did or not, but you apparently didn't pay attention to the game's lore

straight from The path to 2409: Volume 16, Chapter 2:
It took three months for Federation President Aennik Okeg to convince the Romulans and the Klingons to send representatives to a summit to discuss the situation. When the meeting finally began, Okeg made the Federation's position clear. He apologized for the experiments into cloaking technology, and said that he had signed an executive order banning all research into or creation of Federation cloaking technology.

"The narrow legal view may be that the Treaty of Algeron ended when Romulus was destroyed," Okeg said. "The Romulan Star Empire we knew is gone, and you are a new people. What has not changed is the Federation's commitment to peace."

so yes, there IS in fact a reason why the federation can't have cloaks
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# 242
08-15-2013, 05:38 AM
The problem is the game also states Starfleet is deploying Cloaking tech on the description of the Cloaking Device.

Also why would you as a Federation Officer following the rules laid down by the Federation be buying technology off the Black Market that is in direct Opposition to what your Government wants?
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# 243
08-15-2013, 05:58 AM
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i don't know if he did or not, but you apparently didn't pay attention to the game's lore

straight from The path to 2409: Volume 16, Chapter 2:
It took three months for Federation President Aennik Okeg to convince the Romulans and the Klingons to send representatives to a summit to discuss the situation. When the meeting finally began, Okeg made the Federation's position clear. He apologized for the experiments into cloaking technology, and said that he had signed an executive order banning all research into or creation of Federation cloaking technology.

"The narrow legal view may be that the Treaty of Algeron ended when Romulus was destroyed," Okeg said. "The Romulan Star Empire we knew is gone, and you are a new people. What has not changed is the Federation's commitment to peace."

so yes, there IS in fact a reason why the federation can't have cloaks
It's not like one president says one thing then the next decides to do the opposite never happens. Oh wait it happens quite often in politics. Unless in the game it is specified that cloaking technology will not be used by the federation and none available then the position stands that they can use it. Anyway it is a moot point with 2 ships having cloaking technology anyway and arguing that feds cant have it is like saying squirrels are not allowed fluffy tails.
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# 244
08-15-2013, 09:54 AM
ALL OF U PEOPLE ARE MISSING A POINT! The Feds don't directly have a cloaking device. BUT, certain arms dealers can sell you one(for a price) without telling u where they got it from in DS9, so the issue of it not being on the series is out the window. Plus more DS9 episodes prove that cloaking devices are compatible with most ship designs, so compatability isn't an issue. Also, since starfleet didn't make it or know where it came from, it respects whatever old or new treaty in place with Romulus. Now, I m not saying make it come standard on all ships in the galaxy, just make a regular cloak, not a battle or attack cloak, that has a recharge period so people don't go insane with it, that is buyable through some black market dealer so that it is more equal for everyone who is a fed or uses an alien ship.
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# 245
08-15-2013, 10:09 AM
Your canon arguments against fed cloak are irrelevant.

Romulans use Theta Radiation. Klingons use bio neural warheads.
Tricobalts create subspace tears.

Feds should have full access to cloaking technology.

That treaty has long since been rendered null and void.
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# 246
08-15-2013, 10:13 AM
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# 247
08-15-2013, 10:18 AM
1) NO to cloak for all ships, we dont need all ships cloaking, it's annoying enough if all klings and now roms do - too many cloakers just ruin the gameplay IMO! And ships like the Galor, Chel Grett and most of the fed ships are just not built for cloaking

2) I think that the cloak for the fed ships that ARE built to cloak (Gal-X, Defiant, ((Mirror-)Typhoon Battleship - hopefully seen in the future as a playable vessel) should get integrated cloaking systems

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# 248
08-15-2013, 10:19 AM
No, not all fed ships need cloak, the only thing that needs to be done, is to give the Galaxy Dreadnought and the Fleet/Tac Escort Retro an innate cloak. It's absolutely retarded that these were made as consoles. It's unnecessary and idiotic.
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# 249
08-15-2013, 10:26 AM
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No, not all fed ships need cloak, the only thing that needs to be done, is to give the Galaxy Dreadnought and the Fleet/Tac Escort Retro an innate cloak. It's absolutely retarded that these were made as consoles. It's unnecessary and idiotic.
Are you insane?

You want then to be 8 console ships so they get the lame one-trick pony build-in?
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# 250
08-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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Are you insane?

You want then to be 8 console ships so they get the lame one-trick pony build-in?
Insane? why? ALL Romulan and most of the Klingon ships have inbuilt (Battle) Cloak (I can already see the Kligons ranting about that "Ugh we want a 5 Tac Console Raptor" ), BUT i don't see the point why we feds are wasting a console slot if we want to cloak - as i said - the Roms have integrated BATTLE cloaks (altough i must admit the Klingon ships are a bit at a disadvantage, but the BoPs need to get improved anyways yet with the T'Varo Retrofit-Advanced Battle Cloak).

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